I've posted a few of these videos in the comics thread previously - however I feel like their content is strong enough to warrant a Cartoonist Kayfabe thread here. Cartoonist Kayfabe is a Youtube channel run by comic artists Ed Piskor, Jim Rugg and Tom Scioli - they started out doing weekly features where they would run through old issues of Wizard Magazine cover to cover and discuss what was found on the pages within utilizing their knowledge and perspective from being in the industry. Would love to get some conversation happening about their videos here on the boards - they cover a wide range of topics from process videos to book club style features about certain creators and comic series. They have started producing longform 'shoot interviews' as well - the Tim Vigil interview being a highlight so far. Here are some of my favourite episodes so far - however to be honest they haven't really produced a bad episode yet. Definitely take the time to visit their page and subscribe to their channel - these videos are a really special resource to have online. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU0v4IGzj2wK-PmjASkK2Rg/featured Outlaw Comics (the comic book equal to sofvi): In-depth look at some Jack Kirby artwork: Toxic Dot Shading:
I'm loving the Kayfabe! I just watched the annoucment vid with Scioli talking about his FF Grand Design book and I'm super excited. Nothing but love for this crew.
^ Ha, you beat me to the mention! I just spammed it over in the Comics thread. Great idea for a thread - modern heroes dorking out with deep knowledge and palpable enthusiasm every week? It's been my favorite click for a while now. Just dropped their eulogy for Mad in the threads the other day. Hard to name a favorite installment, but, as I'm the middle of a serious Scioli fixation right now, I might as well post their deep dive with him from late last year: PA for the people!
This is cool but I don’t get the whole “outlaw” comic discussion. I’ve been reading weird-ass black and white comics with violence and adult themes since the late eighties/early nineties...why are they now “outlaw” comics? I just thought they were indie comics.
I guess it's a label for stuff that wouldn't be suitable for the 'comics code' hence they are outlaw.. sure they are still indie, but you have a lot of indie comics like Adrian Tomine, James Kochalka etc that are indie but wouldn't fall into the outlaw category. I think it's a fairly recent term, certainly brought to my attention more with the Kayfabe videos. I think Benjamin Marra's OMWOT success brought a lot more attention to the seedy underground stuff from the late 80s early 90s as well.
Bevs - Subset of a subset, m'man. Did you have a look at the chat? Ed mentions early on that he never knew of a name for stuffs like they were chatting about that day, but that some cat from a mag lumped 'em together and placed the term on top. Film Noir wasn't film noir until the Frogs noticed, either. But I totally take your point; transgressive b&w floppies have been a steady part of my balanced diet since before I successfully busted my first nut. Might have even busted a few of the early ones to some of the comix that we're thinking of, now that I think of it. Anyway, outlaw comix. I'll allow it.
I remember seeing Bill Sienkiewicz's New Mutants artwork as a kid and thinking "this isn't for me"... how wrong was I! Glad I grew to like his artwork so that I can enjoy this panel discussion.. Bonus content - check out Bill's own Youtube channel for some nice videos as well:
Sienkiewicz really blew my mind when I was a kid. His was the first comic art, if I'm remembering correctly, that set me on the quest of following the artist rather than the title. I was obsessed with him in the '80s. S'funny, I was just daydreaming last week about what could have been when I came across my copies of his abandoned series with Alan Moore, Big Numbers. Anyway, Bill definitely helped define the path of the sort of collector that I'd become, and he, along with Ted McKeever, helped cement my love for the weirder stuff. Speaking of weirder stuff, I didn't know until a few years ago that Al Colombia started out his career as Sienkiewicz's assistant! Not hard to imagine, now that I know. Y'know, Heavy Metal was a part of my life back then, too, but those artists only existed between those covers... as far as I knew at the time. Digression over. Time to watch the panel chat!
Ted McKeever! I loved Eddy Current and most of his late 80's/early 90's output. Haven't kept up with his more recent work, however. I keep hoping for reprints of Columbia's Biologic Show, but I probably shouldn't hold my breath...
Eddy Current! Plastic Forks! Metropol! Been having fun slowly working my way through these haul videos: So much wheat! So much chaff! So much information!
Man I normally eat up the Wizard episodes but this week was tough.. the only enjoyable part was the Daniel Clowes feature. For the most part it was Eddie & Jim just identifying what was on the page with no real anecdotes behind anything. Maybe they had their minds on other things like getting ready for SPX? Speaking of SPX I'm looking forward to this bunch of shoot interviews..
Sports night! Deeeeeeeeep dive. Homework: http://www.tcj.com/the-kevin-eastman-interview-part-i/ http://www.tcj.com/the-kevin-eastman-interview-part-2/ (Da' ill-fated yet forever almighty Tundra! Related chat begins at 37m.) Hi, @hellscrape!
An absolutely insane collection of comics from the early 1900s... Any other Skullbrainers getting into this stuff? It's kinda lonely in this thread with me and that other guy
Just stumbled across this thread and weirdly, @spacemonkey66 and I were chatting about comics a few days back and I mention Grendel #9 during that conversation. It was the first wordless comic I'd 'read' and it made an impression on me in the 80s. Grendel 1-12 - Devil's Legacy is worth a look; you can grab them as an omnibus or more than likely cheaply pre-owned. I still have mine from 1988 and the art still stands up.
I started watching these a couple weeks ago. Not that I disagree w/ Jim and Ed but, I was surprised how much they shit on Valiant and champion the 90s west coast style. Over all it’s fantastic. The wizard episodes are chalked full of humor and nostalgia
For what it's worth, they keep a giant grain of salt next to their "extreme" appreciations. Dept. of Stuff That I'm Glad That I Already Owned: Gol'dang 'Kayfabe Effect'!
