A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio

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Just the gifts you sold to Sam right? Oh boy...Flipping gifts to th guy who ripped off so many people. That's fucking lame Greg.

 

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Alright someone send me photos of their kids playing with their nags (besides Lamour Supreme)

These are art. Sorry. It took Shig almost 2 hours just to paint the eyes on the new release. This is an art form not something that is just mass produced in a factory. Yes its ART, its not a TOY, and I will argue this til I am blue in the face.

 

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COLLECT. UGLY. NAGx3. TOYS.
C.U.N.T.


*This picture was taken outside. Near a public, neighborhood dumpster.

 

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done.

 

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Rather have a kid play with a real turd instead of a handmade, hand painted one.

 

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I still have to disagree, iPhones are handmade, that doesnt make them an art form. My grandmother would spend an hour making my torn jeans into great shorts with all the fixings and what not, sometimes even adding the old Jeanco logo from my favorite old pair of camos. That, sir, is not an art form.

Heck, Lamborghinis are hand made, that also doesn't make them an art form.

For coming off as passionate and asking for photos, you sure are not engaging in the conversation and when you did, so many pages ago, you only surmised into why these are an art form. I can see the passion and dedication shig puts into these, but we all know that and a lot of people respect it. Do not confuse those things with art, we are smarter than that.

I am just going to disconnect from this now, because you are not interested in having a proper discussion about this nor are you making any efforts to listen to any of the criticism I have outlined.

I still leave our exchange feeling like you just pretend to put an ear out for the collectors but are in reality reinforcing your own notion of why you are doing the right thing, which is just delusion. I just happen to disagree with the practices of which you are, to some extent, responsible and I still believe this does more harm than good to a hobby I've enjoyed for so long.

 

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Sorry Alice...



... I must admit i don't really let her play with the painted one. The detail and dedication that goes into the making of these is "du vrai travail d'artisan", real high level craftsmanship for sure.

 

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Why does anyone continue to sell to Sam, after all his scams. Even if he will pay out the whazoo.

 

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There is nothing to discuss. I feel that these toys are art, you dont. There is this general dichotomy for years between what are actually toys and what are art pieces/sculptures, etc.

At this point the line is blurred. That is why I call them "ART TOYS" people can roll their eyes, post HILARIOUS gifs, memes,etc but it doesn't change the fact that some people view these toys as works of art, and in my opinion this is a correct way to look at them. If you choose to let your kid play with them, or you play with them yourself, then in essence their are toys.

This can go into the realm of what handmade doll made for a kid in the 1800s was in fact a toy, is now being sold for thousands of dollars as folk art or outsider art. No one that buys this doll doubt thats its a TOY, but the fact of when it was made, that it was handcrafted, the material used, the skill level etc, it is now adopted as art.

Also don't get me wrong I do not think the nag is art just because of the price they go for, I think the majority of soft vinyls toys that come out of japan are art, and I think most people on here do as well or they wouldn't have them lined up in glass cases. Most TOYS are usually thrown in a box, crib, hamper or just left on the floor until they end up at goodwill or a yard sale.

 

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Yes, art can be viewed in many ways/forms. Anything CAN be considered art

Sadly, allot of people contribute good art to the value/price paid. Good art is valuable and costs allot...bad art is cheap and worthless. There are exceptions of course.

Should NAGS be considered art because they cost allot? Should they be called art because they are hand painted?

The bottom line is that NAGS are priced silly. Especially here, where there are numerous artists that essentially do/sell the same thing yet they charge reasonable prices for their stuff.

 

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Because that's what all other toys on this board are, right? And if anybody else mentions yet AGAIN how it took Shig 2 hrs. just to paint the eyes - as if that somehow made the $850 price tag even remotely plausible, because he surely never gave a shit when he was selling them himself for a fraction of the price - I'm gonna have a fucking aneurysm. Also, following your logic of $$$, Coop must surely be a lesser artist than Johnny Ryan, because those Nags used to sell for a measly 16-20k. And not 200 fucking years ago.

Oh, and why not take a minute to address the shit that has finally spilled over into this thread from behind the scenes instead of going on a lenghty diatribe about how dollies are art to justify your artificial inflation of prices?

 

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The manipulative (?) inclusion of the little NYC puke shark clique ( sam, pyro, ss etc..) is the worst thing that happened to this plastic figurine.

 

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Golden showers all around!! Lol

 

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The grand master of dollies deigns to grace us with more cheap condescension.

 

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I would think "CUNT Piss Fight" would be more appropriate.

 

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Looks more like scheisse porn at this point...

 

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So because he actually put effort into making them they are ART TOYZ? I spent 2 hrs reading this thread, is that art? What a bag of femine hygene products. Your blue face can't deny the fact that you flipped your gifted nags to renowned flipper scum burzum or whatever his name(s) is/are to in turn do the same. Raising the market value so you can get more out the gate. What a greedy belly full of burgers you must have. I'll settle with one store. I've been saying that you were only coming here for $$$ for a while now bc as was pointed out earlier, you only reply to cheerleaders & never have anything to say to anyone else who adresses you directly. I even pm'd you several times a while back + a twitter DM all with no response but every time a pro mishka comment was posted you were quick on the reply, so that then told me what you were all about. $$$$$$$ & cheeseburgers, fuckin' randy.

 

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WHY? Why do we keep having the same discussion? When is the last time someone's mind was actually swayed in this thread. There are NAG lovers I respect and NAG haters I respect. If you think NAG's are worth it, then you are right to the only person that matters... you. The same can be said for the opposite. I think everyone can agree that this is one of the highest priced toys in the game, at least for a new toy at retail. So the only real debate is whether or not you would buy one, which is a discussion one has within their own head. Does the hype and pricing hurt the game? I don't think so, I buy toys that I like and can afford. No eBay or YJA NAG sale or retail NAG sale will change what I consider reasonable or affordable. Do some newbies and speculators get suckered in? Isn't that inevitable even with good reasonably priced toys? Grody's are cheap, plentiful and still went through the marketing bubble pop. I get that people are passionate about sofubi toys and I am glad they are. That said can anyone justify two threads and hundreds of pages of the same shit said ad nauseum? Maybe it's just me though, some folks like a good pissing match I suppose.

 

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