A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio

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    we're exposed !!! :)
     
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    Ha! That is exactly what I was thinking. :razz: Very odd and random to see our little group pop up there, but I can't help but think it is in connection to the 'wrong' ideas of the hobby - though, I have to say, at least the mention is a context about the right things (i.e. we do not tolerate flipping..... openly....)

    I do have to take issue with several points Oliver's article makes. For one, it doesn't really get into the details of flipping, or more importantly, how it hurts any collecting community. I think choosing examples of high fashion/trends/celebrity/etc., is exactly the kind of BS that hurts any kind of market. To buy something solely for status or because so-and-so is porting it, or it is going to earn you some ridiculous 'cred' in your opinion in the eyes of others, is sad and completely against why I think you should own something. Yeah, that is the way the world may be now, but not, at least, why I am buying these silly toys. And yes, those same perspectives are exactly what are causing flipping and idiotic behaviour in the vinyl scene as well; so in that way, Oliver is correct. Still, retailers allowing an entire family to buy a limited edition print for instance, or the author's own friend doing the same, does point to a general acceptance of the existence of flipping. Whether we like it or not, it arises as a direct result of the consumerist drive and capitalism pervading culture now, and the free market will always support this because of huge gaps in disposable income. I completely disagree with the closing line however,

     
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    That article appears to be over 8 years old? Just sayin'... ;)
     
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    Dear old Shig is flipping himself, moebius style.
    But as a true artist, he's entitled to do it :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Or it has to do about the time it takes to paint eyes again.

    How must he laugh hard each time he receives a Paypal payment.
    But wait, did he notice Paypal takes 4% from him !
    He loses 3200 yen per toy ! One third the real value of his toys !
    Someone should tell him.
     
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    Still relevant.

    Hahaha!
     
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    I think Paypal may be the real winner here.

    Didn't mean to suggest otherwise, just wanted to point it out in case other people may have missed it just like I did myself at first...
     
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    No worries, i missed it too. I was all excited to see SB mentioned in mainstream media, so i did'nt notice the date.

    Anyway, apologies for the thread de-rail.
    Back to the expensive toys . . . .
     
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    As one final derail, because honestly, I think this conversational is as worthwhile having as any (particularly for stuff coming from the Nag thread), I thought the point of the article being eight years old is also worth highlighting for the fact that this describes the situation as it was a fair amount of time ago (in the short life of 'internet things') when the forum was still somewhat new, and it can be argued, internet commerce was also at a different stage then it is now. If anything, it is worth mentioning here to bring up how SB was very anti-flipping early on, something we should hold up to be respected now, in a time when it has gone much worse. The greater attention to the hobby and the more availability of 'art' toys has really changed this scene to be more like other traditional collectible markets (e.g. sneakers). Not that flipping is tolerated now by any means on this board, but the people who openly decry it on here tend to be those who have been in it for a while. I think there is an extra lesson in that, especially for 'newcomers' to SB. The timely focus on Kaws was one thing I found interesting, looking back. Or probably I am just waxing philosophic, because in the end we all know it {flipping} is going to continue. If anyone - for example, the 'friend' who contributed this little tidbit to the piece (thank you for that, whomever! :) ) - wants to speak up, I think there is always a worthy discussion to be had.

    Okay, I will let it go now. Back to Nag bashing/adoring, as is your preference.
     
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    I am curious about how much you consent to pay your domestic help...
     
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    I have a needle :twisted: :lol:
     
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    If there's a bubble here, it's been inflating for years and years. Haven't people been pining for or at least predicting the *pop* since the very beginning, when ye olde Alice ignited the hype?
     
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    There's a bubble and it does not smell good inside.
     
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    Hahaha.
     
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    I learn to stay focus on this hobby. Only buy specific toy that I really like. How many times in a year do you think that Shigeru sell his toy? As I remember this year there are only 2 lotto which are nagball and new genjin. I do hope to win both but I didn't. Hope to win next time.

     
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    Did anybody pick up the toy + zine from NYCC? I'm interested in who the artist/s involved are.. and how many pages?

    Also if it's possible to scan the pages (or at least photograph them) and upload them here I know a lot of SB members would appreciate the chance to see the comic in full. Looks like a lot of work was put into it - would be a shame it doesn't get a wider audience.
     
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    They didn't sell yet.
     
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    While I agree with you, Judging by how Shig has handled his videos, and Johnny Ryan releases, I don't think he wants his comic out there for a larger audience. It's part of his mystique.
     
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    Yeahhh that's true, respect his wishes and all that - but from the couple of pages I've seen the artwork looks super nice. I would kind of be pissed if I were the artist and only a handful of people got to see something that took months to complete -from photos I've seen it looks to be at least 64 pages of sequential art. The linework is so sweet on this - and it looks like it will read quite well as a comic.

    Guess it's just a matter of seeing who wins the lottery tomorrow and it's up to them if they want to share it or not.

    If anybody hasn't seen it yet - this is what we are talking about:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Something about that reminds me of Paul Chadwick's style. Or Pia Guerra.
     
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    It looks OK. Maybe a little stiff ?
    Suehiro Maruo would have be great on this.
    Hope it's release by itself sooner or later.
     
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    All I'm going to say about he book is, full color Nag on Nag sex.


    Let that sink in.
     
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    Don't stop there!

    Hot and bothered! :twisted:
     
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    Pics or it didn't happen ;)
     

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