not a chance. the question is: how does Walt meet his end? i really hope it's not something trite like jail. but an exposion or hail of bullets doesn't seem appropriate either. i'd like to see him fake his own death.
I agree 100%. Walt can't die. The guy has dodged so much death it would be shitty to see his character die. I disagree with everyone who says "Oh he's always been meant to die". I think he's meant to live, maybe painfully after all the things he's done and lost- but live none the less.
To fit the character of the show, it'll probably have to be something relevant to either Walt's ego or his relationship with another primary character. I think the cancer will just make him behave more desperately rather than killing him. That'd be too anti-climax. He needs a come-uppance, the fall that his hubris necessitates. Some form of "getting away with it" might be true to life, given that major drug lords like Vicente Carillo Fuentes and Joaquin Guzman are still at large, but it just feels like this story line has an ending down the line, probably not just for Walt. EDIT: Just read Lixx's comment. Hm, I like that ... having to live with what he's done à la Vic Mackey at the end of "The Shield." But OTOH he doesn't seem like someone with much of a conscience left at this point. At least we can trust this series' writers not to make the mistakes that diminished series like "The X-Files" and "Lost," namely the creation of far too many loose ends with no end game in sight. We may not know what's going to happen to Breaking Bad's major players, but Vince Gilligan already knows. The challenge is in how the writers are going to provide the ride.
Yeah I think it just will boil down to these things based on the flash forward we saw of Walt in episode 1 of season 5. Incidentally Walt looked much like he did when we first saw him in season 1- a beaten man. So the questions are only these for me: 1) Who is Walt having a confrontation with? Why the need for the giant assault weapon. Is it: a) Hank/DEA b) Jesse c) Rival Meth dealers/and or shady new characters we have not met 2) Who did Walt have to kill or who was killed to enable him to escape New Mexico? a)Hank b) Jesse c) Family members d) Character(s) we have not met yet e) more than one choice 3) Who's going to win the confrontation? (Walt lives to escape, or dies trying).
Read online but the title of the episode: Gliding over all' is taken of course from Whitman... The voyage of the soul–not life alone, Death, many deaths I’ll sing. There is no way they are going to kill him off. I love how gratifying season 4 was and firmly believe that after all the shit hits the fan...Walt will walk away in the end....unscathed.
Side note- who's Spoiler prison death was the most dramatic? Spoiler I'd say the lawyer or burning man, but I have to say second to last was pretty brutal (before burning man) I mean shanked multiple times to the chest, then shanked in the neck, then throw over a railing?! That's pretty hardcore
I'm thinking Walt will confront and attempt a guns and glory ending so he can die in some grandiose way, but as the show has taught us, there's some mythic quality to everything that happens. Walt's successes have largely been wagers based on luck. There were so many times he should have been killed but ends up alive purely by chance. The factors that mattered most to him are all but gone in the name of regret. Walt is a fairly tragic character - he often reminds me of Pacino at the end of Godfather Part II, on top but having to give up on the life and love all people need when we're at our lowest. I don't know if Hank is going to do what a normal cop would do. Walt is family and Hank is a good man, and I sort of think Hank has always been more about 'winning' than he ever was about true justice. How Walt ends up in New Hampshire could be any reason, but I'd wager it could be as simple as Hank giving him a head start and Walt going to Saul to start a new life. If that teaser in s05e01 showed us anything it's that Walt looks and acts like a man with nothing to lose and at his lowest, rich or not. I'm confident that the end will be everything we could hope it could be. I can't see this being anything more than perfect.
How can Walt "be out"? He has his new distribution partners that cannot replace his quality as a cook. Would they let him walk away and thereby decrease their business?
Well, I was actually pretty convinced when Skylar showed him just how much money he'd made. I don't know if he really sat back and thought about what he left and gave up in the name for it all, and he's already there and then some. Burying the hatchet with Jesse and giving him what he was owed. Todd and him have been making the stuff for a few months. So, yeah, it's up in the air, but with how good his product is, it is a stretch to think that even if Walt does want out he really can be. I'd love to believe Todd can handle it, but that's... yeah, Walt's probably not going to be allowed to quit.
I'm pretty sure it's a CAT scan and the scene where he looks at the paper towel dispenser and its punched in makes me think the cancer is back.
Yeah, you're right. I've been subjected to enough MRIs this year to know that you're in a claustrophobia-inducing tunnel enduring noises that make Throbbing Gristle sound like Beethoven.
I think the cancer is back. To me, it felt like he wanted to tell Jesse and Skylar, but just left it to "I'm out." I also feel like Walt's decision on being out was because he has nothing to work towards now. Cooking meth has become a grind, he has no numerally goal, unlike when he first start ($725,000?, as Jesse mentioned). But now, its just doing it for the sake of being the best. But now what? And I'm with you on the "head start". I think Hank and Walt will have that confrontation, and the chase begins.
I wondered if the big gun in the 1st episode of this season isn't to fight Hank/Government/DEA but all the other gangs who are involved (and stand to lose a lot if he pulls out) coming after Walt. The Czechs maybe, the distro crew, the neo-nazi's, Liz. They're all out major money if he pulls out. Walt is smart, I don't see him going up against the DEA with that gun. I see him going up against a bunch of violent criminals with it. That's my hope anyway. I think the cancer might be back or caused a different problem that's affecting him. Staring at the fly brought back that whole episode where he goes nuts on the fly in the lab where he was worried his brain was being eaten away. I don't think he'll die. I think he'll get away with it too. If he does die it will be on his terms I think. He'll poison himself or set it up for Jesse to do it or something. But only if there's a benefit for his kids somehow. Those are my initial thoughts at least.
can somebody remember in what episode Gale give hank the book? my GF can't remember the scene, I do, but not the exact episode we want to watch it again
I don't think that happened, at least not on camera! I remember the two of them talking about Whitman when they first met - maybe in the episode where we met Gale - but other than that wasn't the only other time a second WW came up (until this week, that is!) when Hank and our Walt were talking about Gale's notes?
This might be a bit of a spoiler so I'm going to use the spoiler tag in the highly unlikely case that anyone doesn't want to know... Spoiler In the "Inside Breaking Bad" feature that came with "Gilding Over All" via iTunes, actor Dean Norris (Hank) says "Walt doesn't know that Hank knows he's Heisenberg," which suggests that the confrontation won't be immediate. Hank might play Walt for awhile to see how he responds, maybe even get him to slip a little. I guess we'll have to wait awhile to really know.
"Crystal Blue Persuasion" Damn I love that song.I needed that montage to make me chill out. I'm looking forward to the break from this show actually. It drives me insane and makes me a TOTAL stress case. I pace the room while watching it. too much for me. Spoiler Just imagine all the things and prior Walter "events" passing before Hank's eyes while he was on the crapper, wow.
I might have to re watch S4 during winter last ten min of last episode I was so nervous waiting for the grand mid season finale
I'm gonna re-watch the whole series during the break. Mainly to jog my memory about everything that has occured so far. I am still rooting for Walt even though he has turned into a monster. I can't wait till the final 8 episodes, but I will be very sad to see this series go. Easily my favorite TV drama of all time.
One thing I've noticed, since I've been rewatching the series after a few episodes of Season 5 were shown, is that the dialogue is almost like scat singing or jazz in many ways...the visuals too. Returning to refrains, lines being repeated in different contexts to show strength or (usually) weakness, etc. Jesse is the most obvious example of this...but other characters do it too, most recently Walt. His "learn to take yes for an answer" was straight from Mike's mouth. I know what Paul is saying though...I've been on my feet a bunch during the fourth and fifth seasons...it's tense stuff. I got really antsy when you could tell Walt was going to kill Mike...def. out of my seat for that one. Maybe even a walk out of the room! Again, Vince Gilligan can take as long a he needs...because if he fucks it up I'm gonna be taking a trip to New Hampshire myself, heh.
Yeah, you're right, I just realized that those were probably the bags with the gun that Walt used to kill Mike.
