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Discussion in 'Japan Toys' started by stealthtank, Apr 18, 2008.

  1. uberboy

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    you're too mean doc. where's HMS to sugarcoat it for us?

    you'd think header cards would be the easiest part to bootleg.....
     
  2. maxaltoman

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    Personally, i think if someone is to go the full length of bootlegging, i agree with the statement above. You can get the old header printed easily.
    Many of the old RxH up for auctions everwhere now is likely from a semi-big lot sold recently in japan through a very reputable establishment, hence i wouldn't doubt the authenticity IF its coming from this lot. The figures were all sold loose and very expensively. It is also strange to me for someone trying to bootleg over a gid head when the all gid itself is as expensive.
     
  3. joshuajh

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    thats a bit harsh.
     
  4. bryce_r

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    Yes. I would actually really like to have this cleared up. I received a pm from someone saying that Killer J is indeed chaos who is indeed auction-toy. The person said everyone knows it and super7 staff knows it and that there is a even a picture of chaos/killer j and it's the same person.

    If anyone knows if there is any validity to this statement please let me know.

    I'm tired of ghost implications, personal agendas and the run around.
     
  5. dr_tongues_toys

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    Not when we all seem to have the same discussions about the same things over and over and over and over again.

    And Josh - I meant about this particular subject. I have been jumping up and down about this "person" for some time.

    Okay - now I am done (talking about this).
     
  6. Anti Social Andy

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    Is this the full half-hour argument? . . . :D :D :D
     
  7. dr_tongues_toys

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    We shall see if Josh comes back with anything I have to coment on won't we? ;)
     
  8. Dean

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    Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:56 pm
    Forum: Real x Head
    Subject: Ichibanboshi

    Chaos: "I think you hate flippers too much,Me too!!"

    :twisted:
     
  9. Anti Social Andy

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    That's not an argument, that's just a contradiction!

    No it isn't!

    It IS!

    It IS NOT!

    Thank gawd for You Tube and the Monty Python back catalogue to ease those tense and awkward moments! :D
     
  10. joshuajh

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    just came off a bit rough to me is all. but then, im kind of the touchy-feely hippy type . ;)

    are there any problems that cant be solved by monty python?

     
  11. logang1

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    You mean "head" right?

    Yes, it would, and likely did:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Japanese-Toy-Real-H ... dZViewItem

    At this point, I couldn't feel confident telling anyone to go big, bidding on a loose GID Mutant Head. There seem to be a few floating around out there, that aren't original releases.
     
  12. andy

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    And more (painted) GIDs on the way with the upcoming Kozik set....
     
  13. akum6n

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    How exactly would you prove that two board names (Chaos and killerj) are the same person from a photograph?

    Whoever is claiming that this exists, I would be extremely interested to see this photograph.
     
  14. Rich

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    Well I do know that Pogue can do an IP check. It worked for Geo.
     
  15. akum6n

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    True. However, I've bought a custom from killerj, and it came from Japan. If Chaos is auction_toy, and is located in Hong Kong, this seems to foreclose the possibility of them being the same individual. I guess he could have an agent mailing things from Japan (or Hong Kong), but that seems like an incredibly elaborate deception to trick a small number of people.
     
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    Oh no, this guy got connection in japan and partners. It's just too easy for him to find so many different IP. :x
     
  17. garadama

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    Sorry guys, that's why he emphasized "shipped from japan". Noone ever emphasize where it should ship from in sale thread. And like what we found, old_balance = auction_Toy is not totally hk based. His business also help people to bid and sell in japan and he got connection in japan to help buying, lineing up for buying... bidding and shipping. Is is way too easy to make in HK and ship from japan. I just wanna laugh when seeing the first sentense in the sale thread "item ship from japan".

    It is a must to specify "item ship from japan" and it must not ship from HK, coz there are only 3 active guys collecting rxh here, gd, kidclam and....
     
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    c'mon Killer J.

    shed some light on the subject already...!!!
     
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    Already been done....;)
     
  20. BEYOND

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    Killer-J and Chaos are not the same. Just so everyone knows. And with the bootleg Head, I'll ask. It's actually making me wonder also.
     
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    Thanks Hiro...thanks akum6n...thanks...dr.tongues....3 people that I believe.

    I guess my point garadama...is that you have pm'd me (which I still have) where you said that the super7 staff i.e josh, hiro,glenn, brian flynn, etc, and KT and others know that killerj/chaos/auctiontoy are the same person.

    If you're claiming that the 3 identities are one person than you need to back the claim up. You pm'd and said there is a picture showing that they are the same person and you said that there is another BOARD member that can back it up. I'm going to leave him out.

    The only reason why I give a shit is because I collect toys and I don't want to support flippers EVER. However, you keep going with this trend. If you 100% have facts then state them. Don't pm people..don't hide it. State it. If you know someone is producing bootlegs then back it up.
    I collect toys. Not drama. But I certainly don't want to sponsor people that flip and ruin the hobby.
     
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    Re: Yet another crazy night at RxH...


    Fantastic pics man, look like your havin a great time!! Just gonna get better with the thrashout show tomm.
     
  23. kidclam

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    ???? How did you check that? That's a funny comment given what I know. Ip address can be different. I can log in from work, log in from home, log in from Internet cafe, etc.... there's wireless networks all over town that connects through mobile phones that can surf the net... too easy to cover up. Plus said person is believed to travel to Japan all the time to deal with his figures... doesn't take much thinking to know that since he has established himself in Japan etc. It's only a 3 hour or so trip from HK. KT blog there is a pic of him.
     
  24. BEYOND

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    How did I check??? I deal with him via E-mail all the time for work. Also, Brian has talked to him and he explained everything. If you have the photo of Chaos(the board member), please direct me to the link, and also when the pic was taken. If in fact that they are the same person up to this date, then I apologize and I will call Killer-J personally. If he doesn't talk to me I'm sure Mori will. As of now, what Brian has told me is the fact I have heard.
    Like I said, please email,pm or post a link to his pic that shows when it was taken. I already know his picture is up on KT and I know when it was taken. I'm not trying to start a argument, but I just want to know the full detail if you have it. Here's my e mail if this is more better for you to let me know.

    hirokun309@yahoo.com
     
  25. garadama

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    Alright, next time if I see someone gonna be rip off by other member, I won't PM anyone then.
    If someone still question who is auction_toy, who is killer_J, who is chaos (this is insignificant).
    Please come to HK IN PERSON and visit the shop by yourself. The guy in the shop OB is the same stated in the KT Kaizine site. And the guy in the shop is the same as auction_toy ? I don't want to repeat this for those who didn't read some old post. U may seek fact in detail from kidclam.

    I won't post the pic here, you can just go in the www.yahoo.co.jp and do a search using "kai-zine killerJ" and you will see the middle section.

    I just don't want to see people who got rip off, but I still want to leave someone the way to make a living. I discussed with kidclam wondering if I should post that out. But kidclam is a really a nice and considerable man, he won't yell like please state his , post his pic, something like that. Right, he's right, as long as the guy is making his own custom that won't disturb the rule of the game. It's fine.

    During our conversation, we already joked that what if he make some bootleg coz it seems to us that he now managed the painting skill.

    And whoops, it really popup now.

    Well, may be someone would say "OMG !! I didn't know I bought a bootleg, and I resell it !!" Yes, this may be an excuse here.

    For toys, I think this would be a scene we don't wanna see. IT's true sometimes we may bought something that is not authentic and we don't even know. I also feel sad about that. If this is really the case this time, may be we could suggest Mori adding some authenticity labelling... e.g. laser label ? autograph ? etc...
     

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