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Author:  badteethcomics [ Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Stripper City

Get outta my thread! Continue the conversation here

Author:  badteethcomics [ Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

smurph wrote:

Painting over another's hard work is imo hands-down the most disrespectful action an artist (I'm using that term loosely here) can do. Not just in the toy world either... Beautiful murals and street art ruined by some talentless shit with a spraycan upset me very deeply. People ruining others art to make a name for themselves (or even worse out of hate or jealousy) seems to be more commonplace as each day passes... seems very little is sacred anymore.
Yes, at the end of the day if someone buys a toy it's theirs to do with as they please. That said, I strongly feel any artist who brazenly strips and/or paints over another's hard work should be shunned.

/end rant


JoeMan wrote:
I don't want to continue to derail Glen's thread, or get into the custom debate.

He painted over one of my Mishka Walking Cadavers. I was kind of bummed, I had tried to create unique figures with different hair colors, and then named them all on the bottom of the foot. I was hoping the customization would make people really appreciate them.

Once you buy it, it's yours to do as you please with, but i wish people would use blanks, or toys with high production numbers or damaged paint, and not strip one offs or rare runs.


badteethcomics wrote:

One point to make is sometimes certain sculpts are very hard to find and if you're really excited about having a go at painting a certain toy sometimes you gotta grab that one painted version that pops up at an affordable price/trade. I think it would be far worse if he was stripping one-offs and flipping the figures for $$$ but he's just having a fun time painting toys that most of us will never get the chance to.

Maybe more guys should release some cheaper blanka of our favourite sculpts?? Open pre-orders as well ;)

Author:  hellscrape [ Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:48 pm ]
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I'm down for more made to order blank runs! Make it so, Glenn.

Author:  IronPaw [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

Glad you brought over all those good points.

Since we are going to use the term artist (loosely), shouldn't they have a say in whats done with the piece?
Or at least in the way its treated? Im sure you wouldn't want your work erased off, no less erased off the toy
you created?

Same deal with blanks, I imagine some of the toy gods would like to see the unpainted remain monster kolor
free, especially if they only sell 2 or 3 of them. If your an up and coming toy ruiner, contact them and see if
they will do a run with you ruining.

I think any of the artists should be able to ask for this, it is their work of art your trying to paint over.

Author:  badteethcomics [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

I have some blanks that I definitely would never paint over, but not because it's a blank Bemon (I wish) or any other hyped toy.. It's just that I bought the toy because I wanted a blank to sit next to the painted version because I liked the details of the sculpt. Of course there are some unwritten rules when it comes to stripping one-offs but really (as a poor example because I hope nobody would ever do this) if you spend $500 on a Naoya custom Deathra then you have pretty much paid for the right to strip it and paint over it if you want to. I would hate to see that happen, and to any other toy that somebody has taken the time to paint but we really don't have any say in what happens after we sell our toys. People can flip them, display them in sunlight, blow cigarette smoke all over them, give them to their kids to smash into the road or paint over them after paying to own that toy.

I have my reasons for buying blanks and other people have their own reasons.. the original producer doesn't have a say in what happens to their toy (painted or unpainted) after I hand my money over. Just like if I bought a painting from somebody they have no say in how I frame it or where I'm going to hang it on my wall..

Author:  bunnyboy [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:01 am ]
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badteethcomics wrote:
Just like if I bought a painting from somebody they have no say in how I frame it or where I'm going to hang it on my wall..

Or whether you paint over it.

Author:  badteethcomics [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

Exactly! Do whatever you want with it..

Author:  IronPaw [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

badteethcomics wrote:
Exactly! Do whatever you want with it..


I guess, either way it seems super disrespectful.

Author:  Ghost&Flower [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:46 pm ]
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There was a guy that made news around the web in the last few years that was buying expensive paintings or prints or something and then cutting them up to collage into his own work. Cant remember the exact details,but its a similar thing.

Its definitely a weird idea to me to spend the money on original art only to paint over it or strip it.

Author:  hellointerloper [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:15 pm ]
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I dunno... Sure it's yours once you buy it, but if you're an artist then you should understand the amount of love that goes into painting. To just erase that by stripping it and then putting your own paint on it... It's disrespectful. You're fully within your rights to do so, but that doesn't mean you aren't a major douchenozzle.
I don't understand why they couldn't just wait for a blank release or tried to contact the artists themselves to possibly get their hands on a blank... y'know, explain that you really want to paint one. Maybe a deal could have been worked out. Maybe even a collaborative run, and everyone would have been happy.
But nope, he decided to go this route, and he's going to have to face the ire of collectors who would have happily kept that toy in its original state and enjoyed it for years to come.

Author:  badteethcomics [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

Ghost&Flower wrote:
Its definitely a weird idea to me to spend the money on original art only to paint over it or strip it.


I think so as well - I'm just trying to be neutral here about the whole thing. In the case of the Cadaver Kid how easy was it to get a blank? As far as I can remember there was a lottery release for a light blue version.. so if you're somebody who was attracted to this scene as a painter you gotta jump at any chance to get your hands on a sculpt because it might be your only chance for some toys.

hellointerloper wrote:
I don't understand why they couldn't just wait for a blank release or tried to contact the artists themselves to possibly get their hands on a blank... y'know, explain that you really want to paint one. Maybe a deal could have been worked out. Maybe even a collaborative run, and everyone would have been happy.


If only it were that easy! Which brings me to the more constructive (and less pitchfork wielding mob style) discussion of encouraging some of the more popular toy makers to release open pre-orders (or at least capped orders if overwhelming factories is an issue) for blanks in the future. I have high hopes one day to see guys like MVH, PK, Splurrt, Shig, HxS do something like this.

There's one issue that could be discouraging these guys from doing it which is they would be undercutting themselves in prices they have set for certain sculpts - they have built their toys up to a premium level of pricing and desirability through the quality of their work, years put in and scarcity of releases etc. It's only speculation but that could be a real concern. One example of it working successfully is Elegab's blank festival releases - he was selling blanks for 3000yen of toys that he would normally sell for 8500yen+ and it hasn't affected the demand for his releases at all.

It would be nice to see something like this happen. Not only for our wallets :) for a lot of us a release like this would be a great chance to own a piece from toymakers that we admire but either miss out because releases are gone within minutes or we can't afford the price of painted releases. And then we can painted them without being called a "major douchenozzle" ;)

Author:  Russblue11 [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:05 pm ]
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Both splurrt and MVH have done open preorders for blanks in the past...

Author:  VideoV0mit [ Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

It would be great to see more blanks for artist to use,or at least form a safe way for people who enjoy painting these incredible toys without stepping on anyone's toes.

Author:  badteethcomics [ Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

I've got a cheap B-Club Jamira that I wouldn't mind trying something out with so I'm going to attempt to strip my first toy. I guess this thread is as good of a place as any to ask this question.. I've heard both Lacquer Thinner and Acetone are good options for stripping figures, is one better than the other??

Author:  hellointerloper [ Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

I was able to safely strip the paint off of resin with a soak in concentrated Simple Green, but that's as far as my experience with stripping goes. Be prepared to rinse a LOT though, that shit foams up.

Author:  thekrazypanda [ Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

badteethcomics wrote:
I'm going to attempt to strip my first toy.


Did you ever end up doing this? How'd it turn out and what did you use?

I have a toy that I'd like to repaint, it's a common toy and the paint is somewhat damaged (which is why I was able to buy it for cheap).

It's japanese vinyl with I'm presuming something like V-color paint. The paint job is simple with probably not very many coats. Anyone know how best to strip it down to the vinyl, or would it even work to just paint over the existing paint job?

I plan on using V-color

Author:  eckotyper [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stripper City

acetone with cotton... then wash with mild soap and water immediately after.

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