figured i'd dredge this thread up.
got my first vintage bullmark goji last night, and it's dirty to say the least. gross might be more fitting
anywho, is there a soap some of you prefer to use? toothbrush is at the ready!
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| Author: | pickleloaf [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | to clean or not to clean? |
You get a vintage toy and it is a little dirty or missing some paint in areas Do you risk cleaning up the dirt if it is just a little dingy? Do you try to touch up the paint? |
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| Author: | akumaizer [ Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:07 pm ] |
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A mild soap never hurt a vinyl toy. Soft toothbrush helps too. I've also taken toothpaste to vinyls to remove paint rubs. (yes, actual toothpaste out of the tube) It's an extremely mild abrasive. |
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| Author: | atease [ Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
figured i'd dredge this thread up. got my first vintage bullmark goji last night, and it's dirty to say the least. gross might be more fitting anywho, is there a soap some of you prefer to use? toothbrush is at the ready!
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| Author: | pickleloaf [ Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
i used normal old liquid handsoap |
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| Author: | hillsy11 [ Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:27 pm ] |
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Yep, liquid hand soap is good...dish soap is good, too. Anything mild. |
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| Author: | ElvisFromHell [ Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:33 pm ] |
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Try Formula 303 - Clay ("Miami") recommended it here a while ago. i just tried it myself - it's a very gentle cleaner that also serves as an excellent UV protectant. Works like a charm. Touching up the paint on vintage figures? Are you high?!? |
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| Author: | atease [ Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:40 pm ] |
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thanks guys. i have some decent handsoap at home that will leave goji smelling like lavender. now i know what you guys mean by vintage smell. he smells all right.. |
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| Author: | pickleloaf [ Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
if you can, try to keep from submerging it it wont hurt it, but it will get water inside that is just annoying to try to get all out |
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| Author: | brianflynn [ Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
Water won't hurt the toys or paint, they are plastic after all. Mild soap will work, q-tips are great for those hard to reach areas. For scuff marks and harder to clean up areas, use a diluted portion of the orange-based cleaner from Twin Pines of Maine. It is formulated for GI Joe bodies and parts, but it works the same on vinyl. Be careful with it, in it's diluted form, after a little while of work, it will take those scuffs off, if you work it too much, you can remove actual paint. There is no way to remove magic marker or cigarette smoke smell. also, for some reason, japanese dealers will hardly ever clean a toy - the "patina" helps prove it's authenticity I guess. Many times you can get a filthy vinyl, give him a quick wash and see a complete change in appearance, and at half the price! |
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| Author: | atease [ Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
brianflynn wrote: Water won't hurt the toys or paint, they are plastic after all. Mild soap will work, q-tips are great for those hard to reach areas. For scuff marks and harder to clean up areas, use a diluted portion of the orange-based cleaner from Twin Pines of Maine. It is formulated for GI Joe bodies and parts, but it works the same on vinyl. Be careful with it, in it's diluted form, after a little while of work, it will take those scuffs off, if you work it too much, you can remove actual paint. There is no way to remove magic marker or cigarette smoke smell. also, for some reason, japanese dealers will hardly ever clean a toy - the "patina" helps prove it's authenticity I guess. Many times you can get a filthy vinyl, give him a quick wash and see a complete change in appearance, and at half the price! thanks for the tips brian! i spent about an hour cleaning his feet last night and the color that came out from the grime is really incredible. the dirt between the toes was gross, but even worse was the smell that comes out from vinyl when you wet it and it smells like a wet old cigarette. it's really rewarding to clean it up and see that i got a great old bullmark for the price of a new figure though. it was a steal so i'm totally not complaining. i'm hooked on gojis now though...slippery slope 
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| Author: | kr [ Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
brianflynn wrote: Water won't hurt the toys or paint, they are plastic after all. Mild soap will work, q-tips are great for those hard to reach areas. For scuff marks and harder to clean up areas, use a diluted portion of the orange-based cleaner from Twin Pines of Maine. It is formulated for GI Joe bodies and parts, but it works the same on vinyl. Be careful with it, in it's diluted form, after a little while of work, it will take those scuffs off, if you work it too much, you can remove actual paint. There is no way to remove magic marker or cigarette smoke smell. also, for some reason, japanese dealers will hardly ever clean a toy - the "patina" helps prove it's authenticity I guess. Many times you can get a filthy vinyl, give him a quick wash and see a complete change in appearance, and at half the price! DO NOT CLEAN WITH WATER IF IT HAS SMALL BLACK OR BROWN DOTS ! this is vinyl mold or "kabi" . it will spread ! even to other dolls ! |
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| Author: | Erik Sjoen [ Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:59 pm ] |
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"DO NOT CLEAN WITH WATER IF IT HAS SMALL BLACK OR BROWN DOTS ! this is vinyl mold or "kabi" . it will spread ! even to other dolls" Cool! This is good information. |
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| Author: | mondocoyote [ Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:44 pm ] |
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kr wrote: DO NOT CLEAN WITH WATER IF IT HAS SMALL BLACK OR BROWN DOTS ! this is vinyl mold or "kabi" . it will spread ! even to other dolls ! I wonder if it's possible to kill the mould? Kind of related. I've picked up some vintage toys in shops that are actually very sticky to the touch. Is this from the vinyl itself? The shop keeper told me I'd just be able to wash it off, but are these toys in a state of terminal decomposition? |
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| Author: | BobDuher [ Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:02 pm ] |
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This is a good thread. I have most of my toys in a glass cabinet. But they still get dusty. I'm not too worried about the production toys but more concerned with the handpaints. Would you still recommend the mild cleaners on these or should I just use a duster? |
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| Author: | kr [ Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
mondocoyote wrote: kr wrote: DO NOT CLEAN WITH WATER IF IT HAS SMALL BLACK OR BROWN DOTS ! this is vinyl mold or "kabi" . it will spread ! even to other dolls ! I wonder if it's possible to kill the mould? Kind of related. I've picked up some vintage toys in shops that are actually very sticky to the touch. Is this from the vinyl itself? The shop keeper told me I'd just be able to wash it off, but are these toys in a state of terminal decomposition? you can not stop "KABI" you can only remove it from other dolls.NO CURE! if the paint is sticky its been re-painted with the wrong paint. if the vinyl is sticky try washing it off if it's still sticky it's been cleaned with a solvent and there is nothing to do. |
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| Author: | Monkey [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:13 am ] |
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Thanks, Kr. How do you remove the "kabi"? Pick it off? |
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| Author: | kr [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
Kabi doesn't come off it is dug into the vinyl. You can feel tiny holes.You can use mold remover like tilex to clean the surface but it's still spottie . Also keep rice or silica near the piece to draw away moisture . It will still grow but at a slower pace. No cure!!! Keep the doll away from other dolls ie a plexie display box. |
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| Author: | poysntixels [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
a big plastic bag full of baking soda; put toy in bag, seal bag. Leave for 3-4 days. I am told that this helps remove the nicotine aromas that suffuse the toy in question. Have not personally tried it, as I am still a smoker (trying to quit about every 6 weeks). |
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| Author: | Yuck!!! [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
Mr. Clean Magic Erasers are great for scuffs and rubs. |
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| Author: | Mr. Humphreys [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
Thanks for the mold info KR. Up at 2:30am with a touch of insomnia. I did a search on killing mold, and it seems that ozone generators are used to treat mold (but not kill mold and the spores off entirely). Ozone generators are used to remove odors (smoking too) from hotel rooms, I wonder how toys would fare (yes, my geekiness is peeking through ). By the way, if there are any backpackers out there, those new-fangled ozone water sterilizer pens are pretty neat!
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| Author: | onibaba5 [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
I have tried baking soda and it does work! The great thing is, I stash the bag filled with the baking soda and figure on top of the fridge or in a cabinet and forget about it...months later I find a great toy! The Mr clean sponges do work great for scuffs directly on the vinyl. However, be very careful rubbing off scuffs that are on top of the paint. Just go slow.... |
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| Author: | Kingboy D [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
I've always had luck with baby wipes! If they're mild enough for a baby's bottom, ... |
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| Author: | melek_taus [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
I work with ozone on a daily basis and it is a VERY caustic, corrosive substance. It is very bad for vinyl and causes it to become brittle, cracked and discolored (usually yellowing). Short term exposure most likely wouldn't hurt a toy, but extended exposure will surely cause damage. Mr. Humphreys wrote: Thanks for the mold info KR. Up at 2:30am with a touch of insomnia. I did a search on killing mold, and it seems that ozone generators are used to treat mold (but not kill mold and the spores off entirely). Ozone generators are used to remove odors (smoking too) from hotel rooms, I wonder how toys would fare (yes, my geekiness is peeking through ). By the way, if there are any backpackers out there, those new-fangled ozone water sterilizer pens are pretty neat! |
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| Author: | Mr. Humphreys [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
Thanks for the update Melek_taus. I didn't realize it could be so corrosive  . You must have quite a job!
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| Author: | melek_taus [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: to clean or not to clean? |
No problem Mister. Just trying to keep the toys safe. My job's OK... could use some improvements. Especially on the money front. |
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