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Chad Hensley wrote:

Zwan was horrible...

Vombie wrote:

I thought Zwan was really cool--definitely not the Smashing Pumpkins, but they weren't trying to be. SP was dark, but Zwan provided some good morning tunes.
The dude from Chavez was in Zwan, so that was a plus. Chavez is a favorite--well when they did "ride the fader".

So Smashing Pumpkins won't have Iha and Darcy or whatever? WTF? Well at least they got Jimmy. He is probably my favorite drummer--definitely a big influence in my own drumming; he flaunts his chops, but he always keeps it moving. Lots of good energy.

Chad Hensley wrote:

I liked the first two Pumpkins albums, especially Siamese Dream.

I got to see them in a tiny club in Los Angeles in '90 or '91...

Zwan ain't the same thing at all.

Zulkarnaen wrote:

The drummer will be lost without Billy. Billy can’t find a better drummer. Remember when he fired JC, SP resorted to drum machines, they sounded like a bad copies of Depeche mode and Duran Duran. Haha.

Any way, the old members are enjoying their progressing. Jame Iha is the lead for A perfect circle and coming out with his 2nd solo album, Melissa auf is also doing her 2nd Album. D’arcy is long gone.

Vombie wrote:

Zulkarnaen wrote:

.... D’arcy is long gone.

By "long gone" do you mean...she passed?

devilboy wrote:

i don't like that they are back together as smashing pumpkins without the other 2...half ass g n' r style...just form a new fuckin' band. :evil:

Zulkarnaen wrote:

Whatever it is. Billy is Smashing Pumpkins.
There will never be any SP without Billy.

Author:	dr0ss [ Sun May 20, 2007 10:29 am ]
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I got tickets for the 27th and 31st! Anyone get any? This will be my first trip to San Francisco and Super7. I can't wait! Jul 22 2007 8:00P The Fillmore San Francisco, California Jul 24 2007 8:00P The Fillmore San Francisco, California Jul 25 2007 8:00P The Fillmore San Francisco, California Jul 27 2007 8:00P The Fillmore San Francisco, California Jul 28 2007 8:00P The Fillmore San Francisco, California Jul 30 2007 8:00P The Fillmore San Francisco, California Jul 31 2007 8:00P The Fillmore San Francisco, California Aug 1 2007 8:00P The Fillmore San Francisco, California

Author:	BEYOND [ Sun May 20, 2007 10:48 am ]
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is it going to be the whole member or like GnR where it's only one member from it??

Author:	Toxic Phantom [ Sun May 20, 2007 11:18 am ]
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Sadly, only 2. And the other one's the drummer.... I bought tickets though, I think it should be a good show!

Author:	rhinomilk [ Sun May 20, 2007 11:37 am ]
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so is this zwan playing smashing pumpkins covers? ... sigh, i think they're sold out anyways

Author:	Chad Hensley [ Sun May 20, 2007 11:42 am ]
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Zwan was horrible...

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Author:	abelincolnjr [ Sun May 20, 2007 11:46 am ]
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Chad Hensley wrote: Zwan was horrible... So were smashing pumpkins! {end troll]

Author:	Chad Hensley [ Sun May 20, 2007 1:16 pm ]
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I liked the first two Pumpkins albums, especially Siamese Dream. I got to see them in a tiny club in Los Angeles in '90 or '91... Zwan ain't the same thing at all.

Author:	Vombie [ Sun May 20, 2007 1:45 pm ]
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I thought Zwan was really cool--definitely not the Smashing Pumpkins, but they weren't trying to be. SP was dark, but Zwan provided some good morning tunes. The dude from Chavez was in Zwan, so that was a plus. Chavez is a favorite--well when they did "ride the fader". So Smashing Pumpkins won't have Iha and Darcy or whatever? WTF? Well at least they got Jimmy. He is probably my favorite drummer--definitely a big influence in my own drumming; he flaunts his chops, but he always keeps it moving. Lots of good energy.

Author:	BloodDrinker6969 [ Sun May 20, 2007 1:49 pm ]
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Being from Chicago during their rise I was expected to like them, I guess, but never did. Not bashing though. I just hate half-assed reunions, it's not REALLY a reunion.

Author:	dr0ss [ Sun May 20, 2007 1:49 pm ]
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Vombie wrote: I thought Zwan was really cool--definitely not the Smashing Pumpkins, but they weren't trying to be. SP was dark, but Zwan provided some good morning tunes. The dude from Chavez was in Zwan, so that was a plus. Chavez is a favorite--well when they did "ride the fader". So Smashing Pumpkins won't have Iha and Darcy or whatever? WTF? Well at least they got Jimmy. He is probably my favorite drummer--definitely a big influence in my own drumming; he flaunts his chops, but he always keeps it moving. Lots of good energy. Yeah, Zwan weren't that bad in my opinion. Zwan also had Dave Pajo, who is one of my favourite songwriters.

Author:	liquidsky [ Sun May 20, 2007 4:00 pm ]
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Chad Hensley wrote: I liked the first two Pumpkins albums, especially Siamese Dream. I got to see them in a tiny club in Los Angeles in '90 or '91... Zwan ain't the same thing at all. First few albums were great. Even the Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. But after that, they lost me. Adore? Machina? Zwan? ehhh. Seemed like Corgan went on a great ego trip.

Author:	Vombie [ Sun May 20, 2007 4:11 pm ]
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I really didn't dig Machina at first, but after a couple of listens, it's one of my favorites. Adore was the one I skipped. I like MCATIS a lot, but I don't go back to it like I do Siamese Dream and Machina. Pisces Iscariot had some gems on it, too. Man, I'm gonna go and pop-in some SP stuff...! Great band.

Author:	Zulkarnaen [ Mon May 21, 2007 4:42 am ]
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Zwan, was the happy version of the SP. I never seen billy so calm, happy and Cool in Zwan. Mellon collie & Machina was their best,

Author:	devilboy [ Mon May 21, 2007 6:28 pm ]
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i don't like that they are back together as smashing pumpkins without the other 2...half ass g n' r style...just form a new fuckin' band.

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Author:	Zulkarnaen [ Mon May 21, 2007 6:58 pm ]
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The drummer will be lost without Billy. Billy can’t find a better drummer. Remember when he fired JC, SP resorted to drum machines, they sounded like a bad copies of Depeche mode and Duran Duran. Haha. Any way, the old members are enjoying their progressing. Jame Iha is the lead for A perfect circle and coming out with his 2nd solo album, Melissa auf is also doing her 2nd Album. D’arcy is long gone.

Author:	Vombie [ Mon May 21, 2007 7:30 pm ]
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Zulkarnaen wrote: The drummer will be lost without Billy. Billy can’t find a better drummer. Remember when he fired JC, SP resorted to drum machines, they sounded like a bad copies of Depeche mode and Duran Duran. Haha. Any way, the old members are enjoying their progressing. Jame Iha is the lead for A perfect circle and coming out with his 2nd solo album, Melissa auf is also doing her 2nd Album. D’arcy is long gone. By "long gone" do you mean...she passed?

Author:	Zulkarnaen [ Mon May 21, 2007 9:28 pm ]
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Vombie wrote: Zulkarnaen wrote: .... D’arcy is long gone. By "long gone" do you mean...she passed? Nobody knows, Last heard she left the group to pursue an acting career. Hope she is still alive and well, being some else’s mommy.

Author:	Toxic Phantom [ Tue May 22, 2007 2:48 am ]
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devilboy wrote: i don't like that they are back together as smashing pumpkins without the other 2...half ass g n' r style...just form a new fuckin' band. eh, I still think it should be a good show. Guess I'm always the optimist. Hell, I've sat through hours of "dad rock" hoping that Paul Weller might belt out a Jam tune now and again.

Author:	Zulkarnaen [ Tue May 22, 2007 2:55 am ]
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Whatever it is. Billy is Smashing Pumpkins. There will never be any SP without Billy. I remember the rumours, that all part in the studio recordings excluding the percussion was actually played by Billy. Listen closely to their live tracks, Iha's & Darcy's tunes are slightly diffrent. Billy's last good tune was 'Car Crash Star' from the Machina 2 album.

Author:	Vombie [ Tue May 22, 2007 6:26 am ]
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Zulkarnaen wrote: Whatever it is. Billy is Smashing Pumpkins. There will never be any SP without Billy. Yeah, Billy did all the writing, but it's just not the same to see only 2 of the 4 members. Anybody ever hear James Iha's solo effort? "let it come down". I thought it was alright, but it sounds like they used some studio magic to get his vocals right. "do you believe in life after love?"