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Author:  Pogue [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  I blame Big Bird
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/magaz ... ref=slogin

Anyone else want to buy the old episodes now?
Author:  atease [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:52 pm ]
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oh good lord.

leave it to the news media and pc america to find fault with sesame street.

cookie monster rules.
Author:  Pogue [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:53 pm ]
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I don't think it is the media. It is my understanding that SS put out the DVD's with a warning they were not meant for kids.
Author:  atease [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:57 pm ]
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Pogue wrote:
I don't think it is the media. It is my understanding that SS put out the DVD's with a warning they were not meant for kids.


oh they did. i know it's "different" to the homogenized crap they make kids watch now, but this just harkens back to a time that i recall afternoon tv playing censored looney tunes cartoons.

i guess i just hate any attacks on things from my childhood. it makes me sad to watch tv on saturday mornings now, and instead of saturday morning cartoons i see news programming. i think these children see a lot worse on the news and at school than anything that an old sesame street episode is going to portray.
Author:  Dean [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:22 pm ]
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Well ever since PBS got mega-intimidated by the Helms choir's "let's hate this guy we've never heard of named Robert Mapplethorpe and remove all public funding for the arts," heralding PBS' nosedive into corporate sponsorship with strings attached, it hasn't been the PBS that some of us knew as children.

One of the coolest things I can remember about the earliest days of Sesame Street were those crazy psychedelic sequences with animated people with afros and bell bottoms dancing to acid rock intended to teach the value of the letter "m" or the number "4." It wouldn't surprise me to know that some Focus on the Family type nimrods now consider that sort of thing to be drug culture indoctrination.

I hate that everyone can see Snuffleupagus now. Yeah, the "only Big Bird can see him" thing became tired fast, but the good thing was that the kids watching it got to see what other characters couldn't, and could empathize with his lonliness. There's a lovely little life lesson there that got swept away when the beast became just another muppet.
Author:  Roger [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:31 pm ]
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Feh. The original Sesame Street had nothing on Curricula Machine, which taught you how to count by gunning down gangsters, or how to sharpen your pencil with a knife.
Author:  gatchabert [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:12 pm ]
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They don't make em like they used to. Old Sesame Street, The Electric Company, and then there were all the Sid and Marty Krofft shows like Electra Woman and Dyna Girl, HR Puff n Stuff, Sigmund the Seamonster, and a whole bunch of other shows.
Author:  BEYOND [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:36 pm ]
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C is for cookie, that's good enough for me
C is for cookie, that's good enough for me
C is for cookie, that's good enough for me
Oh, cookie, cookie, cookie starts with C


COOKIE MONSTER ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Author:  hillsy11 [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:40 pm ]
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If CM can get diabetes from overindulging, this world makes no sense to me.....
Author:  BloodDrinker6969 [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:42 pm ]
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hillsy11 wrote:
If CM can get diabetes from overindulging, this world makes no sense to me.....


I know, he doesn't even consume them. He throws them at his face, mashes them up and they all fall right back down on the floor all the while yelling "COOOKKIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Author:  Deadbone [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:22 pm ]
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xoconostle wrote:

One of the coolest things I can remember about the earliest days of Sesame Street were those crazy psychedelic sequences with animated people with afros and bell bottoms dancing to acid rock intended to teach the value of the letter "m" or the number "4." It wouldn't surprise me to know that some Focus on the Family type nimrods now consider that sort of thing to be drug culture indoctrination.


Yeah, love the animations. So damn funky (and educational). I think the charm (Apart from the great characters) of shows like the early Sesame St, Electric Company and even the Muppets is the detail they put into the sets. Back stage of the muppet theatre looks run down, dirty walls, even rat characters ect. As the article said, Sesame St was set on an inner city street block of the time, non-refurbed brownstones, garbage bins, loud city noises. They really captured the time and kept it real. No point in trying to fool kids and take them away from reality. Kids Tv shows now are all glossy, bubblegum realities. Some of my greatest childhood memories are from this era of kids TV.
Author:  Deadbone [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:35 pm ]
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You guy's seen this? Funky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ul7X5js1vE
Author:  Pogue [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:40 pm ]
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I credit this SS clip for most of my music taste:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-YcBVEnLT8
Author:  Dean [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:48 pm ]
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Deadbone wrote:
You guy's seen this? Funky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ul7X5js1vE


Oh that's amazing. Stevie Wonder when he was still godly. What do children get today? Michael Bublé on Teletubbies? :twisted:

For more oldskool fun search on "Jazzy Spies" or "Falling Baker" for some of the fun animated counting lessons.

And although it's not quite the same thing, some of the "Electric Company" sequences with Morgan Freemen are deeply weird.

EDIT: Wow Pogue that one is great too. I'd forgotten about it. Again, more cool jazz-funk music and that wonderful period hand-drawn psychedelic-influenced animation. But please, think of the children. This is strictly adult material. :-)
Author:  gatchabert [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:52 pm ]
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The pinball cartoon was one of my favorites in Sesame Street. Some guy made a comp of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgocE-JfWFI
love it :)
my other favs were the Aligator King and the Lady Bugs Picnic. It truely is amazing to see how the sets were back then compared to shows now. Especially when you look at shows like the Muppet Show. What do kids have now that compares?
Author:  Deadbone [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:13 pm ]
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Pogue wrote:
I credit this SS clip for most of my music taste:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-YcBVEnLT8


Man, agreed. I think that probably got into my subconscious as a kid as well. Im a 70's jazz/funk/rock nutt! :wink:
Author:  jocappy [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:23 pm ]
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I once saw big bird in a porn movie, I always knew that this would finally air mainstream......

:twisted:
Author:  atease [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:44 pm ]
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god it doesn't get better than this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7hTkzEwFZ0
Author:  Deadbone [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:54 pm ]
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jocappy wrote:
I once saw big bird in a porn movie, I always knew that this would finally air mainstream......

:twisted:


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Zombie Western
Author:  Shirahama [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:22 pm ]
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I always loved Grover and how he would torture that bald guy everywhere he went. :D
Author:  Deadbone [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:08 pm ]
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atease wrote:
god it doesn't get better than this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7hTkzEwFZ0



:lol: :lol: :lol: Cookie's eyes crack me up.

I thought he might eat the plate as well.
Author:  plover [ Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:59 am ]
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"So, you want another cookie?"

"That's the question lady!"
Author:  gatchabert [ Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:29 am ]
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I always wondered how they made Cookie Monster's eyes jiggle like they do. As far as I remember, he's the only one with eyes like that.
Author:  tavaro [ Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:42 am ]
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Deadbone wrote:
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Remember this guy?

yessir - sure do.

everyone should check out 'meet the feebles'. A great example of a kids show that does not meet the needs of kids.
Author:  onibaba5 [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:12 pm ]
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I'll certainly be purchasing these dvds. Moving from Argentina to New York as a kid in 1969, SS was my introduction to American television and learning English. The show's rawness and characters have always lingered in my subconscious...for a while now, whenever I've had a moment between jobs, i doodle my own interpretations of my childhood pals...

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