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Author:  pickleloaf [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:12 pm ]
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a friend just posed this question to me:

are there any musicans or bands that you really respect/enjoy the early work of, but think they totally lost it, sold out, just had horrible music later in their career?

Author:  MANIMAL [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:13 pm ]
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too many to list....but ill say Michael Jackson was the shit back in the day

Author:  kaiwi [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:21 pm ]
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U2

Author:  pickleloaf [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:22 pm ]
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do you think michael jackson lost it, or that his music suffered when he stopped working with quincy jones?

Author:  pickleloaf [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:23 pm ]
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lou reed
he never recovered after berlin

metallica

David bowie
Went from ziggy stardust to goblin king
The live concert I had on dvd of his from the late 90s or 2000s was painful

Author:  legoomba [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:27 pm ]
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pickleloaf wrote:
do you think michael jackson lost it...

Most certainly yes. That guy is bat shit crazy :)

I think it's different for artists like Michael Jackson who don't write their own stuff, vs. U2 or metallica who do.

Author:  SmilingIdiot [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:29 pm ]
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My picks..

Metallica (should have stopped when Burton died)
Megadeth (Musically, Mustaine was so much better when he was a drug addict! Sad, but true...)
Voivod (they took Metallica's rejected bass player!)

Author:  pickleloaf [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:29 pm ]
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haha i meant lost the music stuff
craziness aside

Author:  brooks55 [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:32 pm ]
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I also vote Metallica.

Others
Korn (First album was awesome, second album was okay, it was downhill from there)
The Smashing Pumpkins

This is different, but I loved At The Drive In, I have never been a fan of The Mars Volta.

Author:  pickleloaf [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:33 pm ]
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red hot chili peppers
californication vs. blood sugar sex magik

iggy pop
candy.... blech!

rolling stones

weezer

Author:  legoomba [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:37 pm ]
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pickleloaf wrote:
haha i meant lost the music stuff
craziness aside

Yeah, it was just too hard to pass up :D

pickleloaf wrote:
David bowie
Went from ziggy stardust to goblin king
The live concert I had on dvd of his from the late 90s or 2000s was painful

David Bowie might have lost it, but i dont think he sold out. The dude just does what he feels like doing.

However Metallica, U2...

Personally for me it's Radiohead...I know I'll probably catch all sorts of hell for that...and i still love them...but their past 3 cd's have really just done nothing for me. I just dont think that they care any more to be honest. When you are young and angry and such, inspiration comes a little easier. Plus it probably doesnt help when you've been working with the same people for 20 years :D

Author:  pickleloaf [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:38 pm ]
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legoomba wrote:
Personally for me it's Radiohead...I know I'll probably catch all sorts of hell for that...and i still love them...but their past 3 cd's have really just done nothing for me. I just dont think that they care any more to be honest. When you are young and angry and such, inspiration comes a little easier. Plus it probably doesnt help when you've been working with the same people for 20 years :D


i will cut you

Author:  legoomba [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:40 pm ]
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brooks55 wrote:
This is different, but I loved At The Drive In, I have never been a fan of The Mars Volta.

To me this is like the exact opposite of the question as far as AtDi is concerned. In my mind At The Drive In was really just starting to catch fire, Relationship of Command is one of my favorite albums.

I also LOVE Deloused, however I do think that every record since then has been, well, mostly 45 minutes of random noises, and 15 minutes of music :|

Author:  bryce_r [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:40 pm ]
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Radiohead? Blasphemy!

I think MOST bands if not all lose it at some point. Inevitably we tend to hold onto the good memories.

I think the question should be rephrased...What bands HAVEN't lost it. Fugazi still holds up for me.

Author:  legoomba [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:41 pm ]
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pickleloaf wrote:
i will cut you

Haha, yeah, I knew that wasnt going to be a popular opinion to say the least. But in my mind, there have been as many memorable songs on their last 3 cds as there were on the entirety of The Bends, or OK Computer, or Kid A.

Author:  Lalo [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:47 pm ]
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legoomba wrote:
I also LOVE Deloused, however I do think that every record since then has been, well, mostly 45 minutes of random noises, and 15 minutes of music :|

TOTALLY agree!
i;ve given them try after try, but just can't get into them.
and i'm a prog metal fan... i just can't do it.
de-loused is good though.

i would have to go with metallica, of course, suicidal tendencies, after the first one they weren't the same, and snoop dogg, he wasn't as smoothnizzle after the first one.

Author:  rhinomilk [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:47 pm ]
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legoomba wrote:
pickleloaf wrote:
i will cut you

Haha, yeah, I knew that wasnt going to be a popular opinion to say the least. But in my mind, there have been as many memorable songs on their last 3 cds as there were on the entirety of The Bends, or OK Computer, or Kid A.


they almost lost me at Kid A and Amnesiac... although Kid A took me awhile to digest (now i like it). then i liked Hail to the Thief and In Rainbows... although all are still not as good as The Bends and OK Computer, but they haven't lost it

Author:  rhinomilk [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:55 pm ]
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Lalo wrote:
legoomba wrote:
I also LOVE Deloused, however I do think that every record since then has been, well, mostly 45 minutes of random noises, and 15 minutes of music :|

TOTALLY agree!
i;ve given them try after try, but just can't get into them.
and i'm a prog metal fan... i just can't do it.
de-loused is good though.


i actually like the newer albums better... just listen to them like 5 more times all the way though, then you'll either love it or bash your face against the wall

Author:  SmilingIdiot [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:13 pm ]
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pickleloaf wrote:
haha i meant lost the music stuff
craziness aside


I did too. The craziness is what I think caused the music to suffer.

Author:  tavaro [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:20 pm ]
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David Bowie still fuxxin rules hard!

'Im afraid of americans' is a great piece of work from the 90s. also, Labyrinth was a very cool movie, I think he fit perfectly in it and I even like the soundtrack. all that on top of the obvious amazing jim henson puppet work.

Bowie still has it, his sense, his musical integrity and pocketloads of cash. he is the bees knees.

Author:  ---NT--- [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:32 pm ]
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A few off the top of my head:
Red Hot Chili Peppers - loved the early stuff through "Blood Sugar...", though now that one is annoying, but I still enjoy the first 4.
Metallica - duh
Beck - anything after he started taking himself seriously (post-"Mellow Gold") sucks, IMO
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion
Snoop Dogg - he was great from the "187" single through his 2nd album
Actually, most rappers are only good for a few albums then run out of things to say.

Author:  lurker [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:39 pm ]
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DANZIG

that is all i have to say.

Author:  pickleloaf [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:41 pm ]
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tavaro wrote:
David Bowie still fuxxin rules hard!

'Im afraid of americans' is a great piece of work from the 90s. also, Labyrinth was a very cool movie, I think he fit perfectly in it and I even like the soundtrack. all that on top of the obvious amazing jim henson puppet work.

Bowie still has it, his sense, his musical integrity and pocketloads of cash. he is the bees knees.


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i like bowie a lot, but his newer music just doesn't hold a candle to his work from 30 or 40 years ago

holy shit 40 years

Author:  rhinomilk [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:48 pm ]
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---NT--- wrote:
Snoop Dogg - he was great from the "187" single through his 2nd album
Actually, most rappers are only good for a few albums then run out of things to say.


what about tupac. he still churns out consistent work

Author:  ---NT--- [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:52 pm ]
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:lol:

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