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| Author: | gatchabert [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Malcolm McLaren |
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/09/arts/music/09mclaren.html?src=mv |
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| Author: | greenslime [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
did you know that malcolm maclaren said he based punk on his grandmother? rip malcolm maclaren |
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| Author: | bannedindc [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
Like Michael Jackson, I couldn't care less that he's dead. Punk existed before and after this con man. A glorified Lou Pearlman if you ask me |
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| Author: | greenslime [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
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| Author: | Biff [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
Watch the documentary 'The Filth & the Fury'. John(ny) Lydon (Rotten) has a few choice stories about what a douchebag this guy was. (I am sure there are lotsa interviews out there, but this movie sticks in my mind.) |
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| Author: | Greasebat [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
I liked the clothing he and Vivienne Westwood came up with...I've owned a cheesecloth shirt and plaid bondage pants in my youth....But that's about it. As far as art and fashion, they had some great ideas. |
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| Author: | nefasth [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
I did'nt read the title correctly and thougth this was about Norman McLaren. |
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| Author: | silent killer [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
bannedindc wrote: Like Michael Jackson, I couldn't care less that he's dead. Punk existed before and after this con man. A glorified Lou Pearlman if you ask me MJ created punk dont try to fool anybody. |
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| Author: | Dean [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
bannedindc wrote: Punk existed before and after this con man. Thank you for making me feel less guilty about my reaction to the news. He's one of those people who led a fascinating life but did screw others over along the way. An impresario who made a big impact, for sure. It's a conundrum ... without the London "Sex" shop and the Bromley Contingent and all that, UK punk might not have had such a huge influence on international culture. For what it's worth, without his association, Vivienne Westwood might never have become one of the UK's best-known designers. On the other hand, the bitterness of the Pistols to this day seems justified. I bought a big dopey jacket that he designed from Poseur on Melrose back in '82. Stupidest thing ever ... it made me look like an Adam Ant fan. But it was showy and Malcom-y in a neo-rockabilly way that caught my attention. In retrospect, it makes sense that I shelled out for it and then never wore it in public. There's no way to assess Malcom McLaren without looking at the positive and the negative. Another goofy memory ... circa 1979 or so there was an illegal showing of "The Great Rock and Roll Swindle" at the Victoria theater here in San Francisco. My suburban "punk" buddies and I drove up the peninsula to see it. It was projected onto a screen from a pirate VHS using one of those awful old projection set things. We thought the movie was hilarious (and actually Malcom comes off sort of twisted and cool in it) but during the movie, some huge fight broke out in the audience. It was pretty nasty ... chains flying, people actually getting hurt, blood running from heads. My friends were a little intimidated by it all and retired from anything more punk than Talking Heads and Blondie after that.  From the old punk perspective, Malcom's crime wasn't so much that the Pistols got ripped off, it was more that he seemed insincere. However, things wouldn't have been as much fun without him. R.I.P. |
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| Author: | jebcrow [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
he may have been a bit of a dick,,but lots of stuff wouldn't have happened & it would have been alot more dull without him.. gotta love buffalo girls!!  R.I.P. him & MJ.... btw,,what exactly is punk?? a mohawk?? safety pin?? bondage trousers?? the sex pistols?? ramones?? the clash?? talking heads?? patti smith?? gbh?? crass?? dead kennedys?? black flag?? judge?? cromags?? green day?? |
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| Author: | Autopsy [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
jebcrow wrote: he may have been a bit of a dick,,but lots of stuff wouldn't have happened & it would have been alot more dull without him.. gotta love buffalo girls!! R.I.P. him & MJ.... btw,,what exactly is punk?? Let's not forget Adam Ant and Bow Wow Wow......I Want Candy - All time fav up there with Whip It by Devo and White Wedding by Billy Idol (just got flashback of early MTV days) |
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| Author: | Greasebat [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
buffalo girls! That was some weirdness...I forgot he did bow wow wow too |
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| Author: | Collin Shots [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
jebcrow wrote: btw,,what exactly is punk?? a mohawk?? dependssafety pin?? alwaysbondage trousers?? only if they cost less than 40 bucks and haven't been washed in over a year the sex pistols?? only in history ramones?? bordering popthe clash?? kinda talking heads?? what?patti smith?? if she is on drugsgbh?? punk crass?? punk dead kennedys?? punkblack flag?? punk as fuckjudge?? still good cromags?? meh green day?? not punk. hope that cleared some stuff up 
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| Author: | Biff [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
Punk, sonny?  I recently played my son the first Gang of Four album and he just looked at me like I had farted. Guess OG Punk is like Glenn Miller records to these young whippersnappers. |
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| Author: | Pogue [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
Gang of Four isn't punk. I don't like punk. |
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| Author: | Kevlo9 [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
Here's a funny interview... http://www.vbs.tv/watch/vbs-meets/malcolm-mclaren
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| Author: | Dean [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
Pogue wrote: Gang of Four isn't punk. I don't like punk. In ye olde days, the band would have agreed with you. But as with The Stranglers, The Fall, Pere Ubu or any other number of not-really-punk bands, the audience would have been the "punk" audience. At least until that I love a man in a uniform song.
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| Author: | greg [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
I've always like Generation X but hate Idol's shit after that. |
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| Author: | jebcrow [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
Biff wrote: Punk, sonny? I recently played my son the first Gang of Four album and he just looked at me like I had farted. Guess OG Punk is like Glenn Miller records to these young whippersnappers. exactly!! that was my point.. it means a bunch of different things to a bunch of different people...to some it is purely a fashion,,to some a music style from whatever decade,,to some an attitude and to others a lifestyle... to dismiss malcolm mclaren as insignificant in context is kind of short-sighted... even van halen were considered punk by some people in the late 70s
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| Author: | organic_addict [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
jebcrow wrote: btw,,what exactly is punk?? Here you go.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_FicTgASAI A loveable rogue.RIP. |
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| Author: | BloodDrinker6969 [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
Avril Lavigne is punk. |
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| Author: | jebcrow [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
BloodDrinker6969 wrote: Avril Lavigne is punk. kesha and blink 182 are even more punk... |
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| Author: | BloodDrinker6969 [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
jebcrow wrote: BloodDrinker6969 wrote: Avril Lavigne is punk. kesha and blink 182 are even more punk... Kesha is John Travolta. |
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| Author: | Kingboy D [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
jebcrow wrote: gotta love buffalo girls!! Hell, gotta love all the World Famous Supreme Team stuff - Hey DJ, World's Famous, etc. This was at the roots of hip hop before it really blew up. http://www.b-boys.com/classic/hiphoptimeline.html |
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| Author: | marswillrule [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Malcolm McLaren |
I love what he did for the New York Dolls. Never been a fan of his. Good Riddance. |
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