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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:56 pm ] |
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I as well as others here have been using choice in paint for awhile now. I know that is toxic but just how toxic ?? Does anyone actually know what its compared to in its levels. Personally I use my respirator , latex gloves and a spray booth. So I don't come into to much contact nor do I inhale it. But there is only so much you can do. Between paint changes and other things I use a lot of thinner for cleaning etc... How much harm are we actually at ?? Does any other artist here that use V-color question this ? |
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| Author: | locomoto566 [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:21 pm ] |
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If you start seeing spots and you're not looking at one of your customs, be concerned. . . |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:25 pm ] |
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I'm being very serous here. Just how toxic is this stuff ? Is it on any level of the stuff used in automotive painting or stronger ? With all things there is a risk but just how much of a risk here are we all taking. I mean yes its not sold here in the US but is readily available in Japan. And just how much of a risk are our favorite artist taking as well ? |
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| Author: | redhanded [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:37 pm ] |
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I wear a mask too if I know it will be more then 5 min. or so. I always wear gloves but thats more to test the flow/color mix and not to get my hands all painted up when doing the extra fine stuff. Some of the warning on some of these paints are pretty intense. If it seems like an issue, move to a water based paint like Vallejo that do not have such a health risk. Com-Art is actually NON-TOXIC and was largely used in the creation of my Nebula Hedoran and the Garadeath I did for Toybotstudios/Kirkland Redhanded |
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| Author: | Roger [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:10 pm ] |
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So you've been using this stuff for a while and _now_ you're concerned about the toxicity? It's a consumer-grade paint, not plutonium. Yuji Nishimura paints vinyls day-in, day-out, without a mask, on top of being a smoker, and he's not dead yet. I have a video of Marusan's painter, a guy who has to be in his 70s, no mask either. Even though it's made for a different market than America I wouldn't be too concerned about it. You probably have a better chance of catching cancer from the vinyls themselves. I learned recently that there are very few US factories making rotationally molded vinyl items any more due to the toxicity and the inability of the factories to meet OSHA standards. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:33 pm ] |
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Well Roger its never to late to ask questions on things. I remember when I realized what cadmium oil colors can cause. I asked the same questions. And that I have been using for longer. Its all a gamble. |
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| Author: | rhinomilk [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:35 pm ] |
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Tsutomu Miyazaki used v-color. look what happened to him |
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| Author: | Paulkaiju [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:35 pm ] |
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it's not really that bad, it has no lead or MEK. It makes a great ice cream topping. I use a respirator anyway just to be safe. It's a fashion accessory. Now Mr. Thinner.... That stuff in nastay. |
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| Author: | redhanded [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:41 pm ] |
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Paulkaiju wrote: it's not really that bad, it has no lead or MEK. It makes a great ice cream topping. I use a respirator anyway just to be safe. It's a fashion accessory. Now Mr. Thinner.... That stuff in nastay. Mr. Thinner is great, after using it for 5 min. everythings seem sooooo much brighter and the toys begin to spin. The toys start singing to you after 10 minutes... Skull Bees doing Bee Gees covers and what not.... |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:42 pm ] |
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Paulkaiju wrote: it's not really that bad, it has no lead or MEK. It makes a great ice cream topping. I use a respirator anyway just to be safe. It's a fashion accessory. Now Mr. Thinner.... That stuff in nastay. Than what makes it so toxic that its not allowed in the US ? I know US regulations are pretty harsh on certain things. But what makes V-color suspect without lead or other chemicals ? And thinner is always a chemical thats harsh no matter what. And for V-color its the thinner thats a big part of how you use it. I go through a ton of it. cleaning out the bowl between colors. Thinning out the paints etc... |
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| Author: | redhanded [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:45 pm ] |
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Maybe v-color but I can get Mr Thinner and Mr Hobby and Tamiya stuff up the road. For v-color it may have to do with regualtions (like MSDS- material safety data sheet) and having warnings in English. Thats just my guess. redhanded |
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| Author: | Shirahama [ Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:01 am ] |
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I worry about my pets. I really wish I could find a mask for my cat! I am being serious too. |
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| Author: | Roger [ Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:31 am ] |
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LASH wrote: Than what makes it so toxic that its not allowed in the US ? |
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| Author: | bryanarchy [ Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:20 am ] |
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Roger wrote: It's allowed in the US. I remember it took a little bit of extra paperwork to sign to get it here but I thought that was a tariff-related thing. It's the goddamned hold that corporate america has on the US government... the lobbyists for Testors show up at Ted Kennedy's office with some airplane glue (just as a sample) and after a few sniffs, he introduces a bill to keep V-Color out of the US. The Model Kit lobby second only to the Belt makers lobby in terms of power in the States. and don't get me started on the belt conspiracy.... |
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| Author: | locomoto566 [ Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:08 am ] |
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bryanarchy wrote: Roger wrote: It's allowed in the US. I remember it took a little bit of extra paperwork to sign to get it here but I thought that was a tariff-related thing. It's the goddamned hold that corporate america has on the US government... the lobbyists for Testors show up at Ted Kennedy's office with some airplane glue (just as a sample) and after a few sniffs, he introduces a bill to keep V-Color out of the US. The Model Kit lobby second only to the Belt makers lobby in terms of power in the States. and don't get me started on the belt conspiracy.... You must've missed the big shoe lace scandal. The stories I could tell, I had to get out because I feared for my life. |
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