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| Author: | alifeintoys [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:25 am ] |
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just my very subjective view: im always a little shocked when threads are being deleted. to me as a german with a totally fxxked up history and being grown up in west-berlin threatened by former eastern germany (ddr) for over 20 years DELETING stuff has either a nazi or a communist association. DELETING threads which are opinions harm freedom of speech, thus dont seem to go along with my democratic understanding at all. would love to see threads being locked if necessary or sent to the end but not being deleted all of a sudden. please dont get me wrong - not ment to be attacking at all - peace. thanks. (sorry for bad english - hope i could make my position clear) |
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| Author: | audiodifficulties [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:31 am ] |
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Its a private message board, so the freedom of speech is limited to what ramos wants on here. I kinda like how b/s/t ones and things go away. |
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| Author: | plover [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:38 am ] |
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I suppose I get your point, but I also like to lean toward the fact that in the end these are still just toys we're talking about here. Useless threads that make no contribution to why we're all here deserve to be deleted and I for one don't feel threatened by this at all. |
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| Author: | liquidsky [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:49 am ] |
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Deleting or locking threads doesn't bother me. It's a private board, sponsored by S7, so they're going to police it to a degree. |
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| Author: | Mutonismyfriend [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:19 pm ] |
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Locking when things get crazy is a good thing in many cases. People need to cool off, and locking helps that. Deleting seemingly innocuous threads seems heavy handed to me, but I can understand it if it is a) offensive or b) marketting unrelated goods or services. Other than the cases above, I am not for deleting in process threads. |
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| Author: | Ghostbuster [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:20 pm ] |
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I prefer locking. In my opinion, no on-topic thread should ever be deleted. And most topics fit somewhere on this forum. There is, afterall, an off-topic forum for discussion that does not involve figures. I also think that the mod/admin locking the thread should leave a comment that indicates why the thread is being locked. The main problem with deletions is that there is obviously no record of what happened. |
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| Author: | Mutonismyfriend [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:22 pm ] |
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A comment, if time allows, as to why a thared was locked is a good idea. Puts an end to pointless speculation...possibly. |
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| Author: | Pogue [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:43 pm ] |
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Mutonismyfriend wrote: b) marketting unrelated goods or services. I think this and posting "not for public" information are the only reason threads are being deleted at this point. |
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| Author: | Ghostbuster [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:03 pm ] |
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I've seen threads deleted for other reasons. One of my threads was deleted, and it couldn't have been for one of those reasons. |
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| Author: | audiodifficulties [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:06 pm ] |
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You could start your own message board and keep track of everything. Ghostbuster wrote: I prefer locking. In my opinion, no on-topic thread should ever be deleted. And most topics fit somewhere on this forum. There is, afterall, an off-topic forum for discussion that does not involve figures. I also think that the mod/admin locking the thread should leave a comment that indicates why the thread is being locked. The main problem with deletions is that there is obviously no record of what happened. |
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| Author: | liquidsky [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:15 pm ] |
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Problem with thread locking is that information or material that a company may consider to be confidential, is still viewable by people. That's one example of why deleting threads is a good idea. |
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| Author: | Ghostbuster [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:23 pm ] |
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Certain situations definitely necessitate deletion. But if locking would suffice, then I think it is the better choice. |
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| Author: | bryanarchy [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:56 pm ] |
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Sales threads get deleted when the items in them have been sold. I think it keeps the Sales section cleaner, keeps people from getting harassed about things they may have already sold and also maybe keeps speculators from tracking the prices of their investments. Deleting, locking down, or even keeping a thread unlocked and undeleted is based on such contextual things and no one rule could cover all the situations. Personally, I don't see arguments on a web board as contributing to the positive interests on the board. Most times when the arguments go too far, no one engaging in these come out looking good and it's clear there will be no resolution. In some ways locking down threads just showcases how small people can be and while that can serve as a deterrent, it can also serve as ammunition for some other shitty and inane argument. In the end, why not try and be positive in posts on the web? If you don't like a toy or whatever just move on and post about a toy you like, or whatever. When you wanna post something in whatever, try not to be incendiary, or touch on these bullshit topics that cable news uses to divide people. Toys fucking rule, acting like an 8 year old doesn't. |
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| Author: | locomoto566 [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:57 pm ] |
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Ghostbuster wrote: Certain situations definitely necessitate deletion. But if locking would suffice, then I think it is the better choice. Like the way it is now? |
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| Author: | Ghostbuster [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:21 pm ] |
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bryanarchy wrote: Personally, I don't see arguments on a web board as contributing to the positive interests on the board. Most times when the arguments go too far, no one engaging in these come out looking good and it's clear there will be no resolution. In some ways locking down threads just showcases how small people can be and while that can serve as a deterrent, it can also serve as ammunition for some other shitty and inane argument. I see your points, but locking a thread that has gone awry creates a record that can be reviewed in order to determine what action, if any, should be taken against the members involved in the altercation. The thread can always be deleted at a later point in time. Also, meaningful discussion often takes place before all hell breaks loose. Why throw the baby out with the bath water? |
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| Author: | audiodifficulties [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:30 pm ] |
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Because we hate babies. |
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| Author: | ramos [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:39 pm ] |
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I like to delete the threads so people don't get any ideas on how to stir up trouble. I feel like when I have left certain threads locked, people have just copied the tactics. This is not suppose to be a super archive, so I think it is ok to delete. |
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| Author: | toybotstudios [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:41 pm ] |
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[quote="bryanarchy"]In the end, why not try and be positive in posts on the web? If you don't like a toy or whatever just move on and post about a toy you like, or whatever.quote] this would be great....  but perhaps unrealistic (and maybe slightly boring)
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| Author: | Mutonismyfriend [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:10 pm ] |
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bryanarchy wrote: In the end, why not try and be positive in posts on the web? If you don't like a toy or whatever just move on and post about a toy you like, or whatever. When you wanna post something in whatever, try not to be incendiary, or touch on these bullshit topics that cable news uses to divide people. Toys fucking rule, acting like an 8 year old doesn't. Bryan sums up my feelings in one succinct statement. This comment fucking rules! |
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| Author: | jltohru [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:10 pm ] |
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i'm sorry if i was a mean jerk on that thread 
my new years resolution is to be nicer on the internet! 
hey, i'm WORKIN on it!!!
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| Author: | toybotstudios [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:16 pm ] |
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jltohru wrote: i'm sorry if i was a mean jerk on that thread my new years resolution is to be nicer on the internet! hey, i'm WORKIN on it!!! i guess here's the upside to deleting threads: I didn't get to see any of Jackie's mean-streak (on this particular issue).... |
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| Author: | jltohru [ Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:10 am ] |
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toybotstudios wrote: jltohru wrote: i'm sorry if i was a mean jerk on that thread my new years resolution is to be nicer on the internet! hey, i'm WORKIN on it!!! i guess here's the upside to deleting threads: I didn't get to see any of Jackie's mean-streak (on this particular issue).... see kids? trying to be nice and make amends get you crapped on. moral? don't bother. |
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| Author: | atease [ Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:22 am ] |
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toybotstudios wrote: jltohru wrote: i'm sorry if i was a mean jerk on that thread my new years resolution is to be nicer on the internet! hey, i'm WORKIN on it!!! i guess here's the upside to deleting threads: I didn't get to see any of Jackie's mean-streak (on this particular issue).... ummm...when has jackie ever been mean on this board to anyone? she and john were the two people who were the most nice to me when i joined over here. please find me an example of her being mean, and being sarcastic doesn't count. it's already been pointed out people on this board have no sense of humor most of the time. if i don't see a decent example I think someone is owed an apology... |
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| Author: | toybotstudios [ Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:30 am ] |
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ummmm, I was being sarcastic.
thought i put a smiley face, but guess I didn't. Whoops! We need a sarcastic emoticon.
Jackie, you know i love you! My deepest apologies. I didn't mean to offend!! I don't think you're mean at all! |
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| Author: | Frank Kozik [ Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:28 am ] |
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Ramos= Erich Honecker Really Fanatic Stasi Operatives |
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