Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) In tonight's interview on CBS news, Palin was as informed as she always is: Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this? {regulation} Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today. Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation. Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) I think McCain is going to look good to his supporters and many undecideds for creating the illusion of "rolling up his sleeves to deal with this" and forgoing ping-pong with Obama. It's a shrewd move. The debates are worthless anyway. You know what I want to see? Essay questions. Lock the candidates in separate rooms with some possible scenarios they might face as president, and see how they answer. Make it a holodeck thing, give 'em the Kobayashi Maru. ;p
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) I fail to see what help McCain will bring to these discussions. He is not an expert on finance, is not on any of the actively involved committees, and will only be bringing the media circus (or more of it) to a place that does not need the distraction. Furthermore, even if he insists that he can be of help in this situation, what would prevent him from flying back to debate Obama? Isn't a president supposed to be able to deal with multiple situations at one time? (Ideally, of course, and not using "43" as any kind of example of what a "good" president should be.) Shatner '08!
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) I believe this 'rolling up his sleeves' move is purely designed to move the presidential debate to next thursday thus canceling the vice-presidential one. McCain is now only one bad Sarah Palin interview away from losing the election- and potientially Biden could eat her alive. It is amazing- she is the biggest threat to the republicans now, a monster of their own making, like the marshmellow man from ghost busters and they cant make her go away. I for one am really enjoying this slow motion train wreck, a bit more each day.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Gotta be easier to enjoy from your side of the pond, brother!
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) I agree. But most people don't know or care about those things. This is being portrayed by the President as a crisis situation, and McCain is doing what he was elected to. Look at it this way, regardless of whether or not they debate, if Obama doesn't return to Washington to cast his vote when McCain does, who's going to look better to the undecideds? Of course, if Obama does vote and does it the same way as McCain, they really don't end up looking that different on the surface. We'll see what happens.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Yeah but the slow motion destruction of the republican party is in the best interest of your country and the rest of the world. Planet earth will be a happier place with Obama as president of the states. I really dont think there is any chance McCain will win now. Oh wait- vote rigging.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) I'm not sure how ephemeral political parties are in your country, but even if McCain doesn't win, it doesn't mean the "destruction" of the Republicans. They've been around for about 150 years and they're not going anywhere.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Biden is going to be treading treacherous waters when/if he debates Palin. Don't get me wrong, if Palin was anyone else, Biden could put them through the wringer. He's going to have to walk on eggshells lest every retort be seen as "bullying" or "sexist". She's not going to win an honest debate with the same watered-down circular statements she feeds news anchors, but she might be able to play the victim card; a little extra lipstick on the pitbull and all. Cerainly not with answers like this from the Couric interview: Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this? Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today. Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation. Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Yeah, cause' the Democrats REALLY care about people and helping the world I hate Republicans, don't get me wrong, but to believe the Democrats are "good" or even "better" or "care" or...well anything you think is the opposite of the Republicans is naive. They're a bunch of rich people who are power hungry and are looking to continue that. Same with the Republicans. Thing is they go about different ways of getting it, they still run people under the bus and put the innocent in the line of fire. Democrats just hide it all better. I just hate the glorification of one party when, from what I've seen, they're equally as bad. It's sad that both groups have fooled enough people to turn half of the US against the other half so much. We forget about being people and identify ourselves as these crappy parties. It all sucks, it just splits us up.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Join me in the new Democrapublican party! The fact that both parties suck so much is the excuse I hear from a lot of people that don't vote---"what's the use?"... I vote because it is my right to do so and I hate the mess that the current administration has gotten the country into..."change" may be a word that is run into the ground over this election campaign, but it is what I'm voting for because the status quo is not working. If I thought a third party candidate might have a chance in hell of winning, I'd probably go that route; however, the system isn't set up for that and voting that way to make a point is not going to help things. Our government has turned into a dictatorship of sorts, in which the president has made up excuses to go to war, wire-tapped any and everyone, and generally mismanaged the affairs of the nation---and claimed that it is all in the name of "freedom". It amazes me that there are no serious investigations into what seems to me to be several impeachable offenses. It is disgusting that we have let the wealthy and powerful have such a controlling interest in our government. Don't be surprised when both Bush and Cheney get back to sitting on the boards of companies that they helped make profits for when all this is over. Drill now! I have a job waiting for me when this one ends! /tirade over, back to work...
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Dont get me wrong Im not one of those naive people who thinks democrats will save the world- they are just the lesser of 2 evils. My support of Obama is for 2 reasons, firstly he said he will end the war- I am skeptical he will actually do this when he gets into power, but am taking him at face value for now. This is what I meant by the 'World being happier'- this 'war on terror' is a complete myth exaggerated out of all proportion for political reasons, as soon as Iraq is over all this shit will die down, providing they gradually pull out of afghanistan aswell. I care about this because it really is ripping my own country apart- In the U.K we have a huge muslim population and the ammount of tension here since the start of the war on terror has been immense, really dividing communities and exacebating old racial tensions. At the end of the day Britian is always gonna follow Americas lead, as soon as the Americans end it Britian will too. My second reason it I thing it will be a great symbollic achievment for Americia to elect a Black president, race seems to be a huge issue in your country still and I thing this will go a long way in building bridges and uniting people- plus the fact that Obama really is the better candidate out of the 2. Yeah I see your point about the media spinning the Biden Palin clash as him bullying her, but the flip side of the coin is that this is politics, you have to be tuff. I mean if she hand handle Biden, how the fuck is she even gonna manage Putin? If you wanna be a sucessful woman in politics you need to have balls- like Britians own, first female leader of the western world- Thatcher aka the 'Iron Lady.' Hopefully people will have the common sense to see that if Biden rips her apart, shes gonna have no chance on the international political stage.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) While I like the idea of someone of color (or a woman) becoming president much sooner than I ever would have expected, it's certainly not something I'd base my vote on. If McCain were black and Obama was white I'd still think Obama was the only reasonable person to vote for. Basically, there are a handful of reasons to vote for Obama. There's another handful of reasons NOT to vote for McCain. And I honestly haven't heard a single reason to vote FOR McCain. It's sad that this isn't a landslide victory for Obama - it really speaks to the level of xenophobia (in the sense of fearing what's "different", not just foreign) in our country.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Yeah that is the point I was trying to make, but better written than mine. Obama is the better candidate regardless of race, the possible bridge building effects of the fact that he happens to be black would bonus. I hope it will really mark the 'Post- Racial era' for America.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) This whole election depresses me, regardless of who wins. It's really shown how out of touch a lot of us are with each other in this country, not just race. Off topic, I also hate hearing "if so-and-so wins, I'm leaving the country!" GOOD! FUCKING LEAVE! I hate that attitude, just because you're a baby and your guy didn't win you're gonna leave? Good. Go die somewhere, shows how much you give a damn about your country. I think some celebrity said it about McCain, but I'm sure people are saying it about Obama too. Stupidest shit on Earth. Why isn't there some law saying celebrities can't talk about the election? They always say the stupidist shit I've ever heard in my life.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) I would love to leave the country if McCain were to be elected. Not because I'm a baby and "my guy didn't win", but because I think things will get worse rapidly. I'd prefer to get my ass out before shit really hits the fan. Unfortunately owning a home really is tying me to the land. We couldn't have picked a worse time to become home owners. If there was something that could be done to change the direction of the country I'd stay. But sadly, if any sort of coup were to be attempted those involved would be killed or imprisoned. I find it funny that defenders of the 2nd amendment point to it being there so that the people have the ability to rise up against the government when the government is not serving the people - it's a great idea, but you put that idea into practice and you're looking at an early trip to the cemetery.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Tell that to some poor girl that gets raped by her uncle and can no longer get a legal abortion. It's an extreme case, but maybe you can understand the statement a bit more clearly? If the vice-presidential debate doesn't happen I'll be so bummed. Granted, most people don't even understand or care about the topics that are being debated, and they may be useless, but how I'd love to see Biden rip her a new asshole.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) the latest hardcore adult video: Biden Time With Sarah... Honestly, I hope that she can argue with him intelligently...at least then I might be able to understand where this VP pick is coming from... I think the song that the McCain campaign steals next should be Cake's "Short Skirt/Long Jacket" for Palin's debate...
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) If someone who that has happened to came to me and said that, I would take it differently. But they don't. Arrogant asswhipes do in the sense of "I hate ::corrupt politicians name here:: so much I'd leave, what would this country do without ME, take that America!" So I guess it's not JUST the statement I find insulting/ignorant but the context in which the user is saying it in. Most people using it, on BOTH sides, are just being over dramatic twats who's lives honestly won't be changed that much on who wins. Not enough to leave anyway.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) yeah, it is annoying when people say it just to be dramatic.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Trust me loads of you guys are gonna flee America when McCain brings back the draft.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) For those of you who say you would leave: which country would you go to, why do you think they would take you, and what makes you think it would be better there?
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Anyones welcome in Britian it would seem- last time I checked we dont even have boarders anymore. It might be a bit of a shock though, its cold and grey 364 days a year and everything is about 3 times as expensive as what you guys pay. Also the food portions are about 1/4 of the size. And officially your 2 times more likely to get violently attacked in london than in New York. Its not all bad though, you guys will love Fish and Chips and discover that football is actually a game played using your feet.
Re: McCain picks Palin (and other election discussion) Entertaining political day.. I've been catching bits and pieces of the Katie Couric interview. Let's hope Palin keeps on talking to the press..stammering and speechless over pretty simple questions (like about her 'foreign policy experience' being that Alaska is so close to Russia). Dems have to be happy after that train wreck of an interview.. And then there are all the congresscritters on capitol hill. (not the least of which are McCain and Obama) We're spposed to believe that the same congress that has been impotently standing by and watching our economy bleed out over the past 8 years now suddenly knows exactly how to fix everything... I'm sorry. It is just too much.
