A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio

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If Shigeru did things the way we wanted, I'd have a NAG by now.

 

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IMHO, I think the art for this particular "header" is more in line with the image I've had of the sculpt from the beginning than Mishka and Lamour's contributions. I dig the art on the old headers, so no disrespect to Mishka or Lamour, but I just felt as though the Mishka/Lamour aesthetic didn't ever truly fit with the sculpt or original concept of the figure (then again, I can't say I know what Shigeru had in mind for the little guy). At first I thought, "that's a pretty awesome collaboration," with the first few releases, then Coop pumped out some great work in a similar vein, which solidified Boryoku Genjin's image of being Ed "Big Daddy" Roth and Basil Wolverton's love child-this spook show, splatter house, madball, punk rock cave dude with an attitude. It's hard to think who he might be had Mishka/Lamour/Coop not intervened. It'd be interesting to see a big turn in the aesthetic, to see him evolve. Fans of the sculpt made Boryoku Genjin what he is today, perhaps Mishka/Lamour/Coop could pass the torch if Shigeru was comfortable with it. I'm sure the hype/demand won't fall regardless of what happens, he was destined to be a bombshell from the beginning.

 

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Um, thanks a bunch HBCoffin! You like spoke EXACTLY what was on my mind, but I couldn't quite put into words, so I made the header to express that instead.
That was my "interpretation" of the violent caveman. I felt like he's always had this "forgotten toy in the toy box" vibe to him. Or a bootleg, flea market feel...
I wanted to try and capture that old, parchment-paper look of an aged header, with the watercolor fills and bold text with subtitle throwback to the 60s ads and printing. Nothing shocking, eye-popping, or really vibrant about it. Just that vintage, homely, foreign toy in your hands that has some kind of history.

All in all, what so special about the Genjin, is that its kind of universal. Whether he is Fink or Frankenruge, he can be interpreted in so many ways. I can only imagine that L'amour or COOP have a blast with each release, almost a creative outlet, for it kind of has no restraints or rules on image or marketing. Like getting sucked into a story or coloring book. Just let loose your imagination and see where the caveman has gotten himself into next. That's the beauty of the character and sculpt.

 

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The header is cool looking. But i think you have to change to 4-eye nag or the new zombie as Nag3 did say the GID will be the last of the OG nags so that he can move on. Brave decision to retire a successful sculpt.

 

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That sucks...

 

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Wow, interesting and indeed quite gutsy. Where did you hear this ? Also, is the GID you mention the already released GID "Andy Warhol" or an upcoming release ?

 

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You can always trust what Joe says

And the GID was the release before the recent Mishka release of various paint jobs on GID along with the mixed part nags + the Warhols i believe.

 

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^ No doubt, i know he's close to the action and always has the latest cure figs hangin' in his office window the minute they come out...just curious, not doubting the source.

 

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The email address on the Boryoku Genjin GID / Mixed parts lottery was "final temptation"....

Atleast we have the new figure to look forward to.

 

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I was unaware the OG Nag had been retired.

And I still don't have one. ... sigh.

 

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I like that a lot too, very nice Iat4th ! It gets a new felling to the toy.

I agree with what HBCoffin expressed. I had the same impression when I discovered the BG before LS & COOP took the reign of header designs. It took a rebel / punk-rock curve and it was fun for a few releases. It would be time for Shigeru to move on to other inspirations.

Maybe some collab with Japanese artists to make it a Japanese toy again. He has some modern Yokai potential more than a Kaiju/Kaijin feel, why not go that way ?

 

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Interesting to see this discussion come up again in a more calm way. I agree with all above and enjoy the artwork that Fourth has been kicking out in these months. I can't but agree with having some Japanese talent on the headers too although I would also be interested in seeing some Shig artwork, considering his skills I'm sure he wouldn't let us down.

 

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roooock mmm missing colors

 

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I used to think, makers had to drop new sculpts all the time to be relevant and popular and to make evident their ability. But then I was having a conversation with a vintage guy, and he was kind of like why, what's wrong with doing something that is so right and so good the first time, you don't need anything else. A character that can stand the test of time and be endeared by generations.

And that changed my mind. He was right, this hobby is too much about what's next and what's new, it should be about artists doing it right, coming up with amazing characters and not just a trend, running with their grand idea and really creating an iconic lasting character. I'm sad the original is retired, because that's imo his best work and my favorite, I haven't seen the zombie but the few teasers I've seen don't give me much hope it will surpass my love of the original figure. But it's his call, and he has to move his brand how he sees fit.

 

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I don't understand "Retiring" anything. I mean why be so official? Why not just stop making it if you're sick of it then when you're not come back and if you never feel like it then don't? Why tag on the "this is the last one!" stigma? That's the aspect I don't get.

I get just being tired or bored as the creator of going on with it, but I don't get being so FINAL. Like bands, why say "oh we're done" when we all know some day you'll go back unless everyone dies?

I don't understand the need to announce a specific message of finality.

 

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"I don't understand the need to announce a specific message of finality."
to generate more hype

 

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Dude, that news is crushing. I really don't want to believe it.
All the while, I am really excited to see more Nagballs, and hopefully the zombie carries the torch on. We'll see...

Well here is the back header. Wanted to kind of show the full line-up of the NagNagNag toys. Also put in an photograph of a Japanese volcano, to add more mythos from the origins and world the violent cavemen live in. A little more of a 60s film vibe, but kind of completes the trio of art. Man now I really feel like I have made some packaging artwork for a "forgotten toy".
And boy were these Genjins cheap to get back in the day! Look at that price!



I shall not give my hopes up.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
Operation Nagsquatch.

 

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Odd Future x Nag

 

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Why can't we flood the market with Nags?

I would love to see the whole line re-released, so all the people dropping thousands on e-bay would be like "What in the hell was I thinking".

I know this sounds cliche, but kid's are starving all over the U.S. and people are dropping thousands, on these guys... I'm getting so close to collecting Bandai from TRU, rather than supporting all these assholes that have nothing to do with the toy...

Let me clarify also so nobody get's the wrong idea, I'm not talking about Lamour/Mishka/Coop, or anyone else working hand in hand with Shigeru. Those people are adding something valid to the toy. I'm talking about the people that somehow get lucky enough to beat the system (In the case of Batman Collector, beat the system multiple times) and then use that luck to make a few grand per toy.

Someone said, "Well at least Shigeru doesn't sell on YJA" Hell I'd be happier if he did, that way, at least the person creating the toy would be profiting from his creation, rather than some unknown dickheads who don't even have the balls to use their real names. They hide among us like thieves waiting to see what we want, than buy up the market only to resell them at their most profitable...

I love the Nag, but I'm getting more and more disheartened, everyday, by the way we all fuck each other, and the makers over. A lot of people hate on customizers, but I look at it this way, at least that person added something to the toy before they sold it. and generally speaking usually they could sell that item for a lot more if they would have just left it alone. To me that's love. I can't say the same for most people selling vinyl commodities nowadays.

Shigeru should do one last order of classic Nag, Made to order... That way everyone could get their just deserts.

 

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slipstar01, no one is forcing you to buy. I'm not saying the batmancollector is a great guy, but he's not the whole problem. He couldn't sell at such high prices unless people keep bidding up that high. You just have to have patience and wait out the hype and one day you'll get your Nag with a bit of luck

There's no good way to sell a limited toy, as has been discussed to death. There will always be collectors who don't like the lottery or the straight to yja or the made to order

Also, you can't make the whole "there's kids starving" argument unless you are living on bare minimum yourself, which I doubt...

 

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well it worked for beanie babies!

 

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I'm not trying to just single that one guy out, It's everywhere, Nobody is forcing me, and I'm not buying from people online, I refuse to support "sellers" and not artists. I have no problem paying a little extra for a toy, but when it comes to this cutthroat, crazy, 300 and up mark, I'm out. I personally think Made to order is the only way to destroy the price gouging, It's worked just fine for Elegab.

Just to make things perfectly clear, there was a time in the past 3 years when I was homeless for about 6 months, and my wife and I were living in an elevator shaft of a condominium for about 3 months, in the middle of winter. So I have a valid right to say, I know how it feels to be hungry, while the rest of the world is spending thick stacks of cash.

I wasn't trying to make or argue a point with the "children starving" comment, it was more of social commentary about how a lot of people would rather spend a grand on a nagball/status symbol, than help out people less fortunate, and it really bums me out.


That said I don't know why I have to be "poor" to have empathy or make an argument for the plight of the lower class.

 

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