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  1. ultrakaiju

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    No worries, G. No judgements here, I think it just wasn't clear from your original post that you had tried some of the methods; and obviously none of us knows as well as you how bad the toy was. Just general suggestions for the wider audience. You are 100% correct, dealing with this is a major bummer.
     
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    Fuck Kanye West.

    https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com...are-attempting-to-take-prayer-out-of-schools/



    It amazes me that this hobby will rip someone a new asshole for selling a toy above however we arbitrarily define as a reasonable price but forcing Christian theocracy down our throats? WHERE CAN I BUY AN OVERPRICED TICKET FOR YOUR BIZARRE TENT REVIVAL
     
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    The fandom can get a bit weird to me. I saw some fans online defending it as a non issue.
    Then again, people seem to forget what Chris Brown did, so I'm not the least bit surprised.
     
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    Are we comparing people's thoughts on sofubi pricing to their reception of Kanye being an advocate of a monotheistic society? Lmao
     
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    They're both on the same spectrum of crazy!
     
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    Didn't you hear about the guy charging 7k for a one off? He is literally Hitler :rolleyes:
     
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    If you're really that desperate, try the oxidizing and soap method:

    Make sure you are wearing protective waterproof gloves! i.e. dish-washing gloves

    Take a warm wet sponge and add a few drops of Dawn dish washing liquid (original blue formula--yes, it does make a difference :)), then squeeze the sponge to get it nice and soapy, then add a dab of Soft Scrub OXI (NOT Bleach!) (size of a quarter) and thoroughly incorporate (squeezy mixy), then gently coat the toy (no need to scrub, since you're not cleaning dirt or marks, you are just getting rid of the odor). As for how long you leave it on, you'll have to test (depends how stinky the toy is)--try a minute the first round, and then repeat if odor is still there. I've used it to clean some vintage, so it's about 30-50 seconds. DO NOT USE THIS METHOD ON METALLIC-SPRAY TOYS! It will damage the metallic paints which are really delicate.

    *SUPER IMPORTANT: Following the soft-scrub saturation, rinse the stuff off and be SURE you follow it up with a thorough soaping with DAWN original blue liquid dish-washing soap. You might want to soak it in a container of warm Dawn suds for 30 mins. or so. This stops the oxidation process. Rinse with water to get the soap off and see what happens. I had one vintage that smelled of smoke, and the Soft Scrub OXI removed all of the smoke smell (as well as the vintage "perfume").

    **DISCLAIMER: I can't vouch for any long-term affects, whether this will cause some harm or not! It's been a little over a year since I tried this on a batch of vintage toys that were super duper cruddy with gunk, and it cleaned quickly and got all the yuckies off. No vinyl cracking or sweating/stickiness.

    Good luck! :)
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  8. Anti Social Andy

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    But who's crazier. . . . the guy charging $7k for a one off or the guy that actually pays $7k for a one off!
     
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    I'd liken the buyers to the Wehrmacht.
     
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    I thought religion was off limits here, fuck most of it though.
     
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    F! These group of asian women lining up for rxh! Cutting in line, smoking in public and blatant flipping while in line.
     
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    Blatant flipping? Are they adding ebay listings on their phones while lining up or something? If they are doing that and cutting in line you should call them out.. the reason why these collectors/flippers keep pulling this shit year after year is because nobody does anything about it.
     
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    @badteethcomics this quote below if from the Game Of Hope thread tonight. It's pretty much like you described....professional flippers, who have zero interest in the artist, are on their phones texting the flipper "ringleader" asking him/her what to buy once it's their turn at the table. And unfortunately NO ONE calls them out, not even the artist (unless someone here has a story to tell about the artist/venue calling them out?).

     
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    they were selling stuff using whatsapp or something these two girls in front of me even had pictures.

    kudos to the organizers the show was ran smoothly. It was just these group of people... hope something can be done in the future so that more items can land to the real collectors
     
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    I can say from experience that I don’t call out flippers anymore because you just never know. A lot of Asian collectors have family here who will
    mule for them. Like aunts, uncles, cousins who will actually go for them. Imagine your auntie actually waiting in line for you ? Lol

    At shows I host lots of Asian collectors now reach out and tell me at least that’s what happening. I know it’s real because eventually I’ll get the collection pic once they get it.

    A little story going back to NYCC maybe close to 10 years ago. I shared a table with either lulubell or someone. I was told this one dude was a flipper but they were 100%. So I called him out right off the bat, “hey if your here to flip you can leave” the kid kindly says I’m no flipper I don’t know where this is coming from. The kid was “fucking Zach” And he’s been to every show I’ve had and been in this scene ever sense.

    So as much as people might get mad no one calling anyone out, you truly don’t know. There is no doubt flippers will be there but I’d say it’s a minority. You’d be surprised just how many people call in favors from family.
     
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    This is going to come out wrong but I was also irritated that every collector that goes to Mori’s shop every week was also at the event. Including flippers and the collectors that come over from China to Tokyo. What I mean is, those collectors travel from China for like 80 usd and go every week to get something. Some of them are flippers not all. But my thing was, couldn’t you guys take a week off and let this side of the world get something that we normally can’t? There wasn’t, as far as I understood, any special release for this show. It was just stuff Mori and co held back from other releases to have here. So why the hell did they need to spend 500 or 600 usd on a flight over here?
    I can say that when I’ve been in Japan for over a month, I went to the shop every week and today saw a lot of the same people in line, including some new flippers plus old. Some of them definitely cane just for this and hadn’t bothered coming to dcon before. I just don’t get it. Especially seeing longtime collectors from here not get any adult size.
     
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    I dunno, collect something else maybe? Is it honestly worth the stress?

    I know that's simplifying things and unfair, but sometimes you gotta let shit go. Maybe that's just me.
     
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    @The Moog It ain’t just you. I’ve let go of several artists because of flippers, hype driving up secondary markets/making firsthand difficult, or the artists themselves made collecting their wares un - fun. I am, however, glad you made it a point to say that it’s simplifying and unfair. ‘Cause at the end of the day *I* made that decision to quit collecting their stuff, and I find no fault in people continuing to chase what they’re into. But if you’re getting that frustrated and pissed off, try talkin’ to the artists and see if something can’t collectively be done to drive these clowns out. I used to try helping with taking trade/flippers directly to artists, but those kids wound up with lotto wins and one off gifts that got sold anyway weeks later. Never know which way the conversation can go unless you have it!
     
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    ^^ Yeah, I agree there is nothing wrong in persevering and fighting for what you love, but personally I had a limit when I was collecting RxH, and I finally passed that limit years ago.

    I also think I added to my own problem by taking endless photos of RxH toys and posting them online.

    Its a tricky one, you want to declare your enthusiasm for a maker but that simultaneously helps to make them more popular. The more popular, the more their shit gets flipped. I mean, I bet hundreds of flippers use SB like a shopping list for the cool stuff.
     
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    It doesn’t stress me that much. I enjoy very much the time I get hanging out with people when I go to these events. That’s most of the fun. I think there is a lot more pressing issues in the world than flippers. Sorry.
    Even so it’s irritating and this is a discussion board. Don’t those go hand in hand?
     
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    @The Moog Very good point about enthusiasm potentially, and realistically, helping aid to attention, popularity and hype! It’s definitely a slippery slope. One collector’s enthusiasm and joy could be a flipper’s paycheck! I was personally a fan of Ed blatantly, and loudly, calling out flippers at the first Five Points. At the end of the day, though, it’s really up the artist and who they choose to/not to sell to, despite what they do or don’t know. Some try, some don’t care, and it’s selfish of me to say they should or have to.

    @IronPaw I think Moog’s suggestion is comin’ more from a realistic standpoint than any sort of jab, in the event that it *could get that frustrating. As we’ve come to witness the flipping has gotten pretty crazy, to the point that the old dude from Koenji I saw at Wonder Fest in 2015, I’ve now seen at one NYCC, both Five Points and every DCon since. :lol: But it is good to express the frustration and concerns, as you never know which artists could be reading here. And even better that it hasn’t pushed you out of shootin’ for the stars with Mori and co.
     
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    No offense taken from @The Moog at all, I totally get him. But yeah, it’s just kind of what it is now. Things grow and change, not always something that can be controlled? But as I see it, again, a lot crazier stuff to worry about than flippers now a days.
     
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    Sorry to hear the rxh show was a flipperfest. I agree with @IronPaw that it would’ve been nice if the insane local to Asia collectors had let the American collectors have this one, but I also agree with @The Moog in that sometimes you have to say to yourself “this isn’t worth the hassle or frustration” and stop collecting that particular brand. I’ve done it, and believe me, there are plenty of cool toys out there. Many that are much easier to get.

    And as for what @Rich said about people bringing family members... I’m not sure exactly how I feel about that to be honest. Because I’ve muled pieces for other collectors and others have muled for me in the past, but it’s typically a “I can’t get to the show, can you grab something for me” capacity, not a “I brought 4 aunts and 2 cousins so I can get 6 extra pieces for my own collection and trade bait” which I find excessive, but then i think about person at the event who maybe missed out because of the one extra piece someone muled for me... where is it ok and when isn’t it? I try not to be excessive, but that’s me. I’m much more relaxed about missing out on things now than I was 6-7 years ago. Like I said, there’s plenty of cool toys to go around.
     
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    Regarding family members... We've had fucks come through shows claiming they were with family. Turns out they were just uni students that were paid to pretend to be family... 'lie, cheat, & steal' seems to be the way of life for some of these guys
     
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    Anyone who would send their Aunty to a toy show is a fucking douchebag who deserves nothing anyway.
     
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