Onion Fights (Space Wrestler Keshi)

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  1. CCPfan

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    Came across Onion Fights, a bit surprised that this hasn't been mentioned on SB =

    Space Wrestler Keshi
    Onion Fights オニオンファイツ

    Mask de Onion
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    B.B. Chop
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    Katy
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    Get Lee
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    Machine Onion
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    Dr.2 Capunner
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    Iron Ingot Yoshida
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    Real x Head version
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    Sofubi version on the way!
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    overall the original sizes run around 1500 yen....if you can find them when they go on sale. Right now the aftermarket they run 5000-10,000 yen depending on the versions.
     
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    Lovely sculpts. Have seen them around before but the unbelievable pricing has always put me off. If I'm splashing out that kind of money on keshi, I'd at least try and make sure it's the Zoomoth stuff.
     
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    Nice to see some keshi now and then :)
     
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    Very nice sculpts. The prices are pretty decent but the aftermarkets prices are seriously rough for all his stuff and he refuses to sell to people outside of japan.
     
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    These sculpts are super nice for that scale. The machine onion has tons of personality. Any idea if these are rubber or pvc?
     
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    it's rubber. The larger sofubi version is pending and that will be the standard material.

    And like Waterbear said, no love for anyone outside of Japan. Next time there's a release I'm using my Tenso to order address! I did come across three shop that have Onion Fights, two were sold out and one with jacked prices. Yahoo Japan Auctions also has a number of listings but waaayyy beyond what I'm going to pay.
     
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    I checked mandarake and they have a bunch for fairly reasonable prices.
     
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    I got these from MoriFestival last year. They are slightly larger than standard Kinkeshi as you can see in the size comparison with Kinnikuman Mantaro. The rubber quality is very similar to Zoomoth and Nerd One Keshi.

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    Yea these things are so fantastic! To think we we're collecting M.U.S.C.L.E.S. when we were kids, in the 80's and had no idea there were tons of variations in Asia. Fast forward and these guys show up 20 years later!! :D

    Funny story... I was at the toy store trying to pick out one of those HUGE packs of M.U.S.C.L.E.S. when I was a kid. This woman and her dumb kid with his dumb face had like a stack of em, on the rack. So I picked one up and they were all "HEY PUT THOSE DOWN THOSE ARE OURS!" but I could see they were like the super duper rare joints. So I just ganked like 4 of em and ran up to my dad and grabbed him and ran to the cashier these two behind me screaming! Haha. Memmmmorieeeeez. ;)
     
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    ^^
    Cool story.
     
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    I have yet to have a Onion Keshi, hopefully one day I can add one to my collection. I'm really loving the colored version of Katy.
     
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    Great stuff. Don't collect keshi (got to draw the line somewhere with all these damn toys) but you know, etc etc. Really cool.
     
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    @GhostTrainGray haha I feel you, I try my best to just keep it at Keshi but there's just so much cool stuff out there lol
     
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    If these were a bit bigger and not keshi, I'd be all over these. Such great designs.
     
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    I got a few of these guys. Love the height of them.
     
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    These look so good. I wonder if the were hand sculpted, or 3d...
     
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    Posted this in a completely unrelated thread, deleted it and figured I'd move the question here as it's way more related.

    Do any of you folks have any information on how traditional keshi are produced? What types of molds and rubbers were used? I have a batch of tropical green N.A.T.I.V.E.S. in the works as we speak and I would love to get some more "behind-the-scenes" info if it's available. Tried squeezing some out of Eric Nilla and wasn't getting anywhere. :<
     
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    Good enough for me, @The Moog Thank you for diggin those up!
     
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    No worries, i've always been curious how they were made myself. It looks like a lot of new mini figures are digitally sculpted
    (like the second link i posted) but older Kinkeshi possibly all hand sculpted. I assume this is how they look when manufactured . . .

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    They must be injection molded then. Very cool to see that sprue.
     
  22. Onion

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    I realize you were mostly answered already but I've got a minute so I'll just pretend those links are down and see if I can remember this correctly...

    Start with a clay sculpt. From there, two silicone negative half molds (usually vertically) are made of the clay. Clay is removed, mold is cleaned and wax gets poured into the silicon mold. Next the wax sculpt is removed, polished and any final adjustments to it are made before a set of rubber (or different grade silicone) negative molds are made. If you are good you can just sculpt from wax at the start.

    These 'final' silicon negative molds get set in a jig and have plaster of Paris poured over them to give a final 'positive' mold. The plaster of Paris positives are removed and set in another jig. Molten metal is then poured over the plaster of Paris to give a final negative mold which will then have air hole(s) drilled and it be fitted to go in an injector. Then you have standard test runs, polishing, etc. and you are good to go.

    In regards to materials the best answer I can give is 'it depends' but if you're looking to try this any industrial materials supplier worth their salt will be able to point you in the right direction. All you'll need after that is your very own bench top injection molder!

    Also you are correct in assuming how modern molds are made. Either a digital sculpt sent directly to a CNC mill to make the mold OR a digital scan of a physical sculpt which is then fed to a CNC mill. You give up a little soul but gain a lot in convenience.
     
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    Very informative, @Onion thank you for that! Never actually knew about the whole plaster phase. Very neat. Toy production blows my mind every time I look into it.
     
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    Mori keshi:

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    Amazing! Love onion fights, just could never get my hands on one. But finally thanks to an overseas buddy I got one coming,
     

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