Point: http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/press-cen ... e-children Counterpoint: http://www.vinyltoys.com/
i know this is totally out in left field, but recently i have stopped watching pro wrestling for a reason what you said above has made me think of. i have been a pro wrestling fan for over 20 years (through good and bad believe me) but this latest steroid shit has me turning it off completely. i understand it is up to each individual performer in the industry what he does with his body, but these large companies (WWE, TNA) that evidently do not have a proper program in place to prevent all the drug use i cannot support. they are perpetuating the horrible lifestyle that is leaving so many of these guys dead before they are 50. i feel guilty providing ratings/revenue for a company that doesnt care about its employees enough. sorry for yet another tangent
no i do eat cheese and wear leather though and drive a normal ol gas car. some things are easier to control than others for me
I can understand why you'd be upset about this, but as you said, those wrestlers do that to themselves willingly and fully conscious of what might happen. If you look around your house, even at the clothes you're wearing right now, you will probably find dozens and dozens of items that were assembled by grade school aged children who were paid less than what you feed into a parkway meter every month. That's the stuff that's worth agonizing about. Sweet dreams. ;p
yea, i can point to a number of things that i chewed on/ate/whatever as a kid and i think i am healthy now. i used to chew on star wars figures like crazy! on the one hand i do feel guilty sometimes supporting what seem to be harmful things, but at the same time i look at it on a more personal level and see that i dont really know anyone harmed by so many of these things... so maybe it isnt so bad? i dont want to sound like a militant environmentalist kind of person or whatever.... i'm really not... but sometimes i feel better about how i live when i step back and try to be more responsible about what i might be leaving behind.
The documentary "Blue Vinyl" talks about the environmental/health hazards of vinyl. It was interesting. But unlike "Supersize Me", which was so effective a film that it made me essentially stop eating any fast food ever since I saw it, "Blue Vinyl" hasn't stopped me from collecting vinyl toys.
next i'm gonna find out plasma tv pumps poisonous gases into hospital nurseries and this laptop gives puppies cancer!
It focuses on vinyl siding for houses. But it is a good watch, and it's informative. I just didn't find it that compelling.
all of our lifestyles sit on top of a huge pyramid of death and pollution. My household ranks in the top 1% of all the current 'income/lifestyle' pyramids out there, worldwide. I'll bet most of yours do as well. every single 'modern' amenity you see as a basic need...fresh food at the store, efficient transportation, clothing, electric lights, indoor plumbing, water on tap ( hot and cold), 24 hour entertainment, the internet, freedom from slavery, war, famine. a life span longer t han 30 or so years, rel;ative good health...all of that is ONLY there because of the industrial revolution. theres no giong back ever, until it all collapses and a few hundred thousand survivors start it all over again.
i am very thankful that i live in a place where these things are afforded to me but at the same time i feel like i should at least try to make steps to better what i can in that framework. i don't want to tear it all down... i want to embrace all the advances while finding better ways to do things. i feel better knowing i at least do little things. (like using shopping bags of my own instead of the plastic ones at the store!)
I am a recycling nazi and pay for and plant trees. I also dont buy diamonds or marijuana ( both those industries are insanely evil as far as human death and suffering). I dont eat at fast food restaurants or any restaurant where the meat comes from outside the US. I chose not to have children, it dies with me. I figure thats my part.
Curious. How is not having children beneficial in your view? Overpopulation? I ask as someone who doesn't and won't have any myself. I admire the other steps you take though I buy the 42o. Make it a legal crop and tax and sell it. Less harmful and destructive than alcohol.
Once it's legal, that would be ideal, but for now you're just pumping more money into a corrupt infrastructure. But you're doing the same by buying toys, anyway. ;p
Late to this thread. Although I can't say I appreciated seeing my comments repeatedly labelled as "idiotic," as I know myself to be no idiot, I'm not thin-skinned, admire Frank and like him just fine, and there was no way a drama bomb was going to go off in that other thread. At least I wasn't going to light any fuses and it didn't seem like Frank was headed in that direction either. Anyway, I'm glad that the issues got talked out in better detail in this thread. Good reading. Some of you might have seen Mark Nagata's recent article on the perpetual toxicity of vinyl. It was more from a personal/philosophical perspective than technically informative, but he summed it up by basically saying "I choose to live with the risk of having vinyl in my household because my love of the toys outweighs my worries." That's a total paraphrase but that was the gist. We all bargain with the devil in life and I think Mark's summary is probably how most if not all of us feel about collecting toxic monsters when all is said and done.
so I have a question..... if all this vinyl around me is constantly "out-gassing" toxic fumes, isn't that hazardous to our health? is that why i'm taking double hits on my inhaler???? now that I think about it, I feel like i'm suffocating!
how long till we find that our chinese made - vinyl (incl. bounty hunter) has lead paint?!?!?! ALSO abdullah forking someone always makes me lol... i have no idea why
