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as much as i love the work you do, i think resin casts of japanese toys (rxh) won't be so well received here...regardless, it looks great and the clear hand is awesome.


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RxH nite lite!!!!


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Is this a resin copy of an evil? Wow. I didn't realize.

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Is this a resin copy of an evil? Wow. I didn't realize.

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...and that is a scary thought. Making resin copies of another company's toys is very taboo. Especially if you don't have permission. Even if all you're doing is making copies to paint. Once you sell one, you could end up in a lot of trouble. If you are making resin copies, I'd stop right now before things get out of hand.

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is the whole thing a resin copy or is just the glow arm/hand a resin dupe so as to get the internal effect?

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there was a project i wanted to do with a resin mini smogun - it wouldnt work with clear vinyl really

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It's not an ENTIRE cast of the ME... just the left arm.

I needed the GID to 'pop' for my concept and this is the best way I know how to do it.

I understand the taboo aspect and the thin line of stepping on toes. I didn't think this would be disrespectful.

Isn't the idea of customizing being creative?

Apologies for any sacrilege...

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It's not an ENTIRE cast of the ME... just the left arm.

I needed the GID to 'pop' for my concept and this is the best way I know how to do it.

I understand the taboo aspect and the thin line of stepping on toes. I didn't think this would be disrespectful.

Isn't the idea of customizing being creative?

Apologies for any sacrilege...

Custom painting is one thing, but to make a cast of all or even part of a figure without permission is copyright and/or intellectual property rights infringement.


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O boy :?

In a black and white word there is no middle ground. Either your right or wrong, not close enough.

When it comes to making a resin parts or entire figures, if its even just the hand its wrong. Soon you will say what the hell, I will make just the head, then just the entire thing.

In my opinion I wouldn't even dab into this pool, stop at this one.

On the bright side, the idea came out pretty good.


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Interesting concept


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I actually think the resin thing is a terrible idea and sends a horrible message. I can't believe you did that and yes I think it's extremely disrespectful.

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whatever....

people do mods all the time to all kinds of shit.

i'm sure Harley Davidson is completely offended by what tons of people do to their bikes. :roll:

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Apologies for any sacrilege...


Well he's apologizing so hopefully no more resin-casts. We can put our torches and pitchforks away.


I do think the arm looks cool though, but not the paint job.

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fig looks awesome, very creative - great job!!! :D

cant see anything wrong with it, nor illegal, sorry.
no reason to be stricter than the pope.

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whatever....

people do mods all the time to all kinds of shit.

i'm sure Harley Davidson is completely offended by what tons of people do to their bikes. :roll:


so is mercedes...
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i'm sure Harley Davidson is completely offended by what tons of people do to their bikes. :roll:


As to motorbikes--i think its a totally different story...

Custom bikes (as in American Choppers, Other custom builders) are built from scratch--there are "bike kits" available where you can choose from after market dealers which are several. Engines, Frames, etc., you name it, lots of after market suppliers, especially in the States.

Choices for paints, and creative paint jobs are encouraged and theres a whole sub culture to this.

In Harleys for example, If an owner bought a brand new bike, which are "stock" or bought as how it was released for example, and was "customized" by the owner, there are kits for customization which are available from the Harley stores.

However, some owners would 'customize" their bikes: paint them, change the tires, etc, where parts are bought elsewhere, is also a possibility....this is perfectly up to the owner.

BUT.... a Harley owner, who customized his bike, can easily restore his bike to its original condition.

If he wants his bike restored now, and bring his bike back to the original condition, he can easily order the parts which were painted (i.e. tanks, fenders, etc) because there is big company which is Harley that will support this and will continue to manufacture stock parts in the years to come.

And this process is reversible, because you can easily keep the painted tanks and fenders in the garage if you don't want them anymore. And install them back when you choose to do so.

I don't know about RXH for example, if you choose and decide to restore your toy to its original paint or condition....??

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whatever....

people do mods all the time to all kinds of shit.

i'm sure Harley Davidson is completely offended by what tons of people do to their bikes. :roll:


I understand doing modifications to toys and making customs and painting toys. I own two customs and love them.
But this is a mold of an arm which is the exact replica of the original.

You don't think that mori or any toycreater would be slightly offended that someone made a identical "arm" of their creation? I just don't think that they would be considered flattered by it.

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I don't see anything wrong with it, and I kinda don't think the creators would, either...as long as it's for Nebulon's shelf only. If you're just talking about it as an affront to the original creation or to the "purity" of the manufactured version, I don't see that; I think this is no different from hundreds of other customs we've seen that have gone beyond just paint to involve additions/subtractions/reconfigurations to the original piece.

Now, if he decided to sell it...or offer a line of customs with re-cast resin parts...or even to just sell the resin arm casts for people to use in their own customization...waaaay different story. Problems, then.

Anyway, Nebulon, I think this is kickass.

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toybotstudios wrote:
whatever....

people do mods all the time to all kinds of shit.

i'm sure Harley Davidson is completely offended by what tons of people do to their bikes. :roll:


I understand doing modifications to toys and making customs and painting toys. I own two customs and love them.
But this is a mold of an arm which is the exact replica of the original.

You don't think that mori or any toycreater would be slightly offended that someone made a identical "arm" of their creation? I just don't think that they would be considered flattered by it.


Toybot likes to go against the grain. Makes him 'edgy'. Bootlegs are fine in his world.

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the.redchicken wrote:
I understand doing modifications to toys and making customs and painting toys. I own two customs and love them.
But this is a mold of an arm which is the exact replica of the original.

You don't think that mori or any toycreater would be slightly offended that someone made a identical "arm" of their creation? I just don't think that they would be considered flattered by it.


Toybot likes to go against the grain. Makes him 'edgy'.


good news, thought he is seriously confused! :D


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Bootlegs are fine in his world.


:shock: ...isnt that what new kaiju is all about??? :wink:

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I don't see what all the hoopla is about - if you support "customs" then you shouldn't have a problem with this. You can't "restore" your non-modified customs to their original glory anymore than this could be restored - ruined with paint or resin, it's the same thing.
Now if the entire figure were to be cast, of course that'd be different. But I've seen bootleg He-Man and Star Wars figures sell on this very board - whether it be Mattel or Mori, it's all the same.
And actually I think the glowing hand looks pretty cool and is different than the other stuff we've seen. But the paint looks like crap.

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i like the idea of the glowing hand, but the paint does suck. im just glad it isnt 'pinstriped'.


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Toybot likes to go against the grain. Makes him 'edgy'. Bootlegs are fine in his world.


I'm a huge fan of the do-it-yourself style of bootlegging, but only so long as what is being created is different enough to show the bootleg-artist's intent. If your goal as a bootlegger is to make money by ripping people off, screw you. Many bootlegging processes-such as resin casting, photocopying images for use in collage or screenprint, and other types of direct image-based appropriation are employed by the bootleg-artist to make relevant points about mass-production, cult-object obsession, parody, and the distortion of imagery that is canonical to modern pop culture.

Many toy artists create toys that are based upon the ideas of others. Whether it be inspirational like Mori's love of TMNT toys leading him to create the Mutant Zone figures or KAWS appropriating the VERY recognizable stance and pants of Mickey Mouse. These artists have worked to have the ability to create their own toys in a "legitimate" way. They are made in factories and come with trademarks and higher production values.

Some of the joy of collecting home-made versions of mass-produced objects come from their inferior quality and production value. Working outside of the factory, small-production bootlegger's art has a certain modern charm to me that is very appealing

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Some of the joy of collecting home-made versions of mass-produced objects come from their inferior quality and production value. Working outside of the factory, small-production bootlegger's art has a certain modern charm to me that is very appealing

I couldn't agree more. Someone like "Sucklord" wouldn't exists without the world of bootlegging and I love the Sucadelic Universe!

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Toybot likes to go against the grain. Makes him 'edgy'. Bootlegs are fine in his world.


lol....that's because i'm a bootlegger.

ps: people collect bootlegs too!
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