Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:05 pm
Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:03 pm
Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:07 pm
Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:09 pm
Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:40 pm
3wing wrote:I haven't made a sofubi, but as a working Artist I can tell you competition is rough in any artistic venue. You are basically getting advice from competition.
Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:55 pm
3wing wrote:I haven't made a sofubi, but as a working Artist I can tell you competition is rough in any artistic venue. You are basically getting advice from competition.
Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:43 pm
Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:52 pm
3wing wrote:bryce_r wrote:3wing wrote:I haven't made a sofubi, but as a working Artist I can tell you competition is rough in any artistic venue. You are basically getting advice from competition.
Uh not true at all. 7+ years ago. Several people started with paintings customs, got good and bad feedback, were told to stop/continue, modified and changed what they did, entered shows and built a following.
They did not just post up a picture and say..GIVE ME FEEDBACK. It was a slow build. In the past few years, multiple people have joined and did so just to pitch a product. Others got to know others, showed what they were passionate about, worked on side projects and some of it worked out.
Ask Rich, Joe and PK if how difficult it has been.
probably a little true... just saying. all the jaded corn beef saltyness with the come to jesus / art is hard talk; it is what it is. Thats the way things are. Lesson is. if one will persevere they will find some subjective success.
I don't need to ask dudes ish. I am aware, I grind.
Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:05 pm
evom wrote:what are you even talking about??
Bryce has been around a long time and knows whats up.
Plenty of people have come here for critique on a sketch of a toy theyre gonna make only to never be seen again. Also this is a collectors board and most people here dont make toys so they are not your competition. But coming here and saying "hey i never talked to any of you before but if i make this will you buy it?" Just seems like a weird approach to me.
A few times weve even had people join and tell us how they know nothing about sofubi but are here to tell us that they will be making a toy for us soon.
Edit: 3wing removed his post. My bad. I read it and commented.
Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:12 pm
evom wrote:3wing wrote:bryce_r wrote:3wing wrote:I haven't made a sofubi, but as a working Artist I can tell you competition is rough in any artistic venue. You are basically getting advice from competition.
Uh not true at all. 7+ years ago. Several people started with paintings customs, got good and bad feedback, were told to stop/continue, modified and changed what they did, entered shows and built a following.
They did not just post up a picture and say..GIVE ME FEEDBACK. It was a slow build. In the past few years, multiple people have joined and did so just to pitch a product. Others got to know others, showed what they were passionate about, worked on side projects and some of it worked out.
Ask Rich, Joe and PK if how difficult it has been.
probably a little true... just saying. all the jaded corn beef saltyness with the come to jesus / art is hard talk; it is what it is. Thats the way things are. Lesson is. if one will persevere they will find some subjective success.
I don't need to ask dudes ish. I am aware, I grind.
what are you even talking about??
Bryce has been around a long time and knows whats up.
Plenty of people have come here for critique on a sketch of a toy theyre gonna make only to never be seen again. Also this is a collectors board and most people here dont make toys so they are not your competition. But coming here and saying "hey i never talked to any of you before but if i make this will you buy it?" Just seems like a weird approach to me.
A few times weve even had people join and tell us how they know nothing about sofubi but are here to tell us that they will be making a toy for us soon.
Edit: 3wing removed his post. My bad. I read it and commented.
Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:33 pm
Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:11 pm
Grizlli wrote:This thread is getting out of hand. But I'm gonna put my two cents in on the toy production topic.
I make toys, in fact I've made a few. All of which people on here hate as far as I know. Does that stop me from making things I like, nope. Art isn't about the buyer, or collector, or critic. If your passionate about this character, passionate enough to fund it's production. Then just do it. You'll never make everyone happy. But you can please yourself just fine. If you don't think it's worth spending the money to make the character, dont. Wait till you find one that is.
Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:18 pm
Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:43 pm
Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:11 pm
Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:16 pm
toothaction wrote:So... you're responsible for that jet ski of a helmet? And Skullbrain had something to do with it? Hmm.
Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:27 pm
akum6n wrote:toothaction wrote:So... you're responsible for that jet ski of a helmet? And Skullbrain had something to do with it? Hmm.
If you don't teach your kids about Monster Kolor, they'll learn about it on the street.
Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:49 pm
IronPaw wrote:I love that the helmet felt as if it was supposed to be a mic drop.
Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:28 pm
IronPaw wrote:akum6n wrote:toothaction wrote:So... you're responsible for that jet ski of a helmet? And Skullbrain had something to do with it? Hmm.
If you don't teach your kids about Monster Kolor, they'll learn about it on the street.
I love that the helmet felt as if it was supposed to be a mic drop.
Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:02 am
Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:03 am
Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:07 am
Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:32 am
JoeMan wrote:If your only takeaway is to decrease the size of the figure, I think you've misunderstood most of the comments and advice.
But decreasing the size has it's own challenges, small figures are even more challenging to succeed with than mid or standard. A 3" figure is going to cost you a minimum of 2k for wax and mold, another 100 figures will cost you at least 500. Bottom link is you are spending 2.5k minimum on 100 figures with a max of a $35 retail price, after your shipping and paint and packaging and will have to sell 100 plus figures just to break even. after you've sold 200, maybe you've made over 2k, and if you are lucky enough to be able to sell runs of 30 figures (and most people can't) you wold only have to sell about 7 runs to hit that 200 number. say you sell a new run every 3 months, you will take about 2 years to make 2k on the figure.
This idea, that people here are in competition is bizarre.When I see an upcoming designer I like, I'm one of the first people to take interest in and patronize, you have to support the things you love and the artists you want to stick around. I am friendly with and collect toys from dozens of designers, as I imagine most toy makers do. I think the people who feel otherwise are people who haven't had success, and blame everyone else for failing to recognize their own greatness.
60 hours, is really a week-2 in a full time job. I think as a generalization it takes 1-2 years in a creative field, for people just to feel like you don't totally suck. You're dealing with people who have been collecting toys for 5, 10, 30 plus years and have collections of 500, even 1000 plus toys.
I think your mindset that you are learning is right. I'd just slow down and really digest the feedback you're getting here.
Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:56 am
3wing wrote:JoeMan wrote:This idea, that people here are in competition is bizarre.When I see an upcoming designer I like, I'm one of the first people to take interest in and patronize, you have to support the things you love and the artists you want to stick around. I am friendly with and collect toys from dozens of designers, as I imagine most toy makers do. I think the people who feel otherwise are people who haven't had success, and blame everyone else for failing to recognize their own greatness.