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 Super7 x Gargamel Paint Contest Zagoran!!! 
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Awesome! Bring on the clear Zag!!!

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this might be a dumb question - but is that a mini-zag or full size? I read through the posts and didn't see any mention of size.

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oh yeah, since this is a paint contest then doing something like filling the zag with slime and odd parts...then painting some of it is out? the need to fill a clear, empty zag is strong :D

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this might be a dumb question - but is that a mini-zag or full size? I read through the posts and didn't see any mention of size.

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Full sized. You can tell because the arms/legs are articulated and it's a bit more proportionate than the mini. The mini kinda looks like a dwarf with it's head the size of its body.

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What a cool contest!

Is it open for people living outside US? How much time we will have to submit a custom?


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Thanks for the height head's up! Just pre-ordered mine and already know what I'm gonna do :D

oh, another question is can we do mash-ups with other figures (i.e. Gargamel vinyl releases) for the contest?

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I might sit this one out.


I hope you don't. I really liked the balzac. The orange/blue/black looked amazing together. I was hoping to see a zag like that.

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Wow, this is a great idea. I can't wait to see what gets submitted. I know that there is alot of talent out there. Good luck guys and gals!


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Newbie Alert!
I'de like to try my hand at this but I have a question. What's the real deal on hand painting? I've read a few posts on here that seems to indicate that the brush method is not the right way to go. I'm a painter. I've never used an airbrush and I really don't have the exra cash to lay out for airbrush equipment to experiment with. I could see where a handpainted piece might be hard to re-create in a run. Just wondering if it's not the kaiju way?

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Newbie Alert!
I'de like to try my hand at this but I have a question. What's the real deal on hand painting? I've read a few posts on here that seems to indicate that the brush method is not the right way to go. I'm a painter. I've never used an airbrush and I really don't have the exra cash to lay out for airbrush equipment to experiment with. I could see where a handpainted piece might be hard to re-create in a run. Just wondering if it's not the kaiju way?


Anything is fair game... it's just that practically all japanese vinyl manufacturers use spray techniques over hand painting. There's no reason to think that any customs can't be hand painted since there are a number of people that do use brushes/paint pens/spatter/dripping and other methods of applying paint.


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Any idea on how long we'll have them in-hand to complete the paint jobs? I'm really slow when it comes to working on projects like this. I've had an idea for a Zag for a long time now...might have to actually give it a try, but it involves processes that I've never tried out before so it could be a total disaster!


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plastichunter wrote:
Newbie Alert!
I'de like to try my hand at this but I have a question. What's the real deal on hand painting? I've read a few posts on here that seems to indicate that the brush method is not the right way to go. I'm a painter. I've never used an airbrush and I really don't have the exra cash to lay out for airbrush equipment to experiment with. I could see where a handpainted piece might be hard to re-create in a run. Just wondering if it's not the kaiju way?


I think brush methods can add a degree of texture not possible with airbrushes. Would be interesting to see some Zags painted by the old fashion hand/brush way.

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plastichunter wrote:
Newbie Alert!
I'de like to try my hand at this but I have a question. What's the real deal on hand painting? I've read a few posts on here that seems to indicate that the brush method is not the right way to go. I'm a painter. I've never used an airbrush and I really don't have the exra cash to lay out for airbrush equipment to experiment with. I could see where a handpainted piece might be hard to re-create in a run. Just wondering if it's not the kaiju way?


I think brush methods can add a degree of texture not possible with airbrushes. Would be interesting to see some Zags painted by the old fashion hand/brush way.


that brush texture is usually not something that people care to see though

i think a brushed technique will be less likely to win a run because think of the labor involved in having to reproduce the effect

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This is a full size zag.

You will have about a month to work on your customs once they are delivered.

We are basically making these to order so feel free to buy as many as you like.

They do not come in bags or have headers.

The winning entry will need to painted at the factory and should not be excessively expensive to make.

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that brush texture is usually not something that people care to see though

i think a brushed technique will be less likely to win a run because think of the labor involved in having to reproduce the effect


Well I'm no customizer so I really don't know the standards in judging paint jobs. If it's something for production then I guess brushed technique is not the way to go. Then again, if it's a small run then why not? Also it doesn't mean one should hold back on your creative based on these limitations right? I believe brushed techniques are much more worthy of an art piece because of the labor involved as u mentioned.

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we'd all get into the whole art toy vs. toy toy discussion! :lol:

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Paint them however you like, I think the coolest customs are always the ones that couldn't be made at the factory.

However, the winner will be something we can reproduce.

Maybe I will come up with another prize for best custom that can't be made into a production run.

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Lol...I can't believe people think I'm going to paint another Hothead style figure.
As far as using a paintbrush, if you thin down your paint enough, the brush strokes won't be as prevalent and you can blend colors almost as cleanly as an airbrush. It took me roughly 10-12 hours to paint Hothead. If I had an airbrush, it might take more time because of the masking that I would have to do. There are definite advantages to both airbrush and paintbrush. I think you are better off knowing how to use both...even if you only use one. I don't think a brushed technique is less likely to win (of course I would say something like that). The person using the brushes just needs to think about the final piece, and by final piece I mean a production run. In case people don't know what this Hothead that some are referring to (if you look closely, you can see a rough blend vs a smoother blend)....

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Maybe I will come up with another prize for best custom that can't be made into a production run.

The contest could follow the Skullman Paint Contest model where there is an overall winner and each judge can also pick a personal winner. Overall winner gets the production run, judges picks get parting gifts (queue Price is Right music).

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will the entries be displayed at S7 for our viewing pleasure?


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This is a full size zag.

You will have about a month to work on your customs once they are delivered.


Is this contest opened for people living outside US?


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The contest is open to anyone but you will have to pay to ship your figure to and from Super7.

We will have all the entries on display in the shop for a month.

I will announce all the details when the Zags arrive.

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Do locals still have to pay the $10 shipping if we can just drop off and pick up our pieces?

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Do locals still have to pay the $10 shipping if we can just drop off and pick up our pieces?


yes. you're not allowed to walk into the back room. someone has to do it


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As far as using a paintbrush, if you thin down your paint enough, the brush strokes won't be as prevalent and you can blend colors almost as cleanly as an airbrush. It took me roughly 10-12 hours to paint Hothead. If I had an airbrush, it might take more time because of the masking that I would have to do. There are definite advantages to both airbrush and paintbrush. I think you are better off knowing how to use both...even if you only use one. I don't think a brushed technique is less likely to win (of course I would say something like that). The person using the brushes just needs to think about the final piece, and by final piece I mean a production run. In case people don't know what this Hothead that some are referring to (if you look closely, you can see a rough blend vs a smoother blend)....

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Maybe I will come up with another prize for best custom that can't be made into a production run.

The contest could follow the Skullman Paint Contest model where there is an overall winner and each judge can also pick a personal winner. Overall winner gets the production run, judges picks get parting gifts (queue Price is Right music).

Thanks for all the feedback! I'm thinking the hand-painted idea I have in mind would end up being to time consuming for production so maybe I'll just go for a judges prize.

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Thanks for all the feedback! I'm thinking the hand-painted idea I have in mind would end up being to time consuming for production so maybe I'll just go for a judges prize.

We'll have to see if S7 goes for the idea of having judges prize's. It would be cool if they did but it's not up to us. Keep your finger's crossed.

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