honest and sincere..not lame.

Honestly and sincerely lame.

+1

Number 1: I did not know what was under the "sheep" and if I won it, this head makes me sick.

Number 2: if everyone thought so, would be no trade section in SB.

Number 3: I want to be a fly on the sly and see your movements to get the toys that haunt you ...
...I believe that I would not find all that ethics you profess.

number 4: I usually do not participate in lotteries to nag if not interested.
I have only spoken by hypothesis.

fly on the sly... i like that!

What the fuck is trade flipping? Isn't that an oxymoron?

Ok, ok so who's gonna do it? the 10 toy commandments that is. I'm losing track on what the rules are. I thought it was u join the lotto or buy a toy and it's YOURS. Or should we first contact the SB committee for guidance? Just saying.

But anyway great toy, congrats to all the winners. It's awesome how your nicknames are on the back. I'm sure most of us were confused as to why we were putting our nicknames in the lotto emails.

obtaining a highly coveted toy, not for the sake of flipping it at a hiked price, but for the sake of trading it for another highly coveted toy you'd rather have.

for those that don't know.

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I'm pretty content, thanks for asking.

Good thing nothing on the "Trade Bait" thread is highly coveted…. that would be lame??

if i had a Nag I would most likely trade for a Bemon, is that lame?
The religion of kaiju is getting complex

Yes, they are your toys. Go read the FAQ, if you don't like how the guys, who keep this board up for us to use, want to run things go hang out at KR. Trade flipping is flipping, period. It has the exact same effect on other collectors as monetary flippers, in some ways even worse. If you haven't read Brian Flynn's post about flipping and acceptable behavior here, then why are you even on this board?

no, you are wrong, you can do whatever you want with your toy but NOT on this board. Joining SB means abiding by certain ethics that apparently many newer members have not learned yet. Here is a great read for those that think trade flipping is acceptable on SB. Pay close attention to #1

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=11257&start=0

It's all relative

Flipping doesn't suck because you make money off it. It sucks because it's predatory, opportunistic and selfish. Ask Atease how he felt being offered the Ju 2 pack the day it landed. Ask Dybukim how it felt to see a Mishka camo Zag go up the day it landed. It sucks and as a collector, you should get that.

i guess being considerate to others is now a complex religion?

wow
so confused…

okay… if get a toy in hand and it doesn't get my motor going the way I had hoped, I have to what a certain amount of time to trade it to someone who has a toy they don't want?
my head hurts

For the record,I would trade any toy in my collection for a bemon.

^ then you have misunderstood the entire line of reasoning. move along.

If you had gone and read what we suggested you would have seen that in that instance, selling for what you paid is the right thing to do (on SB at least). Using said toy as leverage to advance your own collection with no regard for those who missed out is lame. It's really not that complex. If we are talking about a toy with a relatively large run size and people had a decent shot at it, then it doesn't matter because you are trading to trade and people will not feel compelled to give up things that are still of great value to them. When only 10 of something are made and incredible luck is needed to score one, then it takes on a much different face and that's were it becomes highly opportunistic and selfish. Entering a lotto or going after a micro run should be because you like the toy and wan't to keep it, not because if you win you can trade for something you actually want. This instance shouldn't really come up much unless you are just entering every lotto and going after every micro run for the hell of it. So in that instance, it's greatly appreciated and respected to pass it along in a sale for a reasonable price. Please go read Brian's post on flipping.

i like #2 more, i pre-order some toys, after received. i found not my cup of tea. then offer them on the boards first in case someone may want them. if NOT, then it wl going to somewhere it belong to

also, i check other people want, i part something i hv to them.
for trade or sell. that is

Not trying to get into the argument at all, but I was searching the board for "RFSO" a few days ago, and came across this post from Rich back in 2006. Obviously he's talking about selling, not trading, but when I saw this post it made me laugh thinking about how often flipping / selling practices / trade flipping gets brought up around here lately:

something about Nags... really brings out the best in people.

I don't think I was trying to be right or wrong. But to b specific, I was addressing the issue at hand. he stated he didn't like the figure so he would've traded it. then of course that sparked an on going discussion(which I fed into ). The figure was pretty much a Blind bag, so he's suppose to keep it because it is wrong to trade it? I see the ethics behind the rule but some people police these issues to hard.

it's simple in my book if you seen touched and analyzed a figure, and you don't like it. then why join the lotto for the figure? to trade flip? Thats messed up. But if you never seen a figure and decided to see what the "HYPE" is about. And once the figure arrived you decided it's not your thing. then what? your stuck with the figure because it's not ethical or your suppose to go back alley out of an old truck to trade it? so that no one notices and your not frowned upon?

You are not stuck with it, the "right" thing to do would be to sell it for what you paid for it.

I honestly and sincerely agree...