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How much are you guys paying for these? $150-$200? Because if you want I'll go down to the local toy store, buy some dolls, mess them up real good (aka zombify) and do if for say $100 with bonus free shipping :roll:

Sorry Lixx someone already has the "second hand store" zombie market covered...
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yea dude, like go stick your hand in a toilet full of poop, pull it out,and you have the same thing,

I bet if Shigeru did that, and then showed it to you, you would still be carrying on about how Shigeru just blew your mind.

When I was in Japan, he did just that, my mind was and is blown.

Just because you can't be objective, about stuff your friend is putting out, doesn't mean we can't... This is a forum where we talk about things, it's not all +1's, and "Droolz". And I know for a fact that Lixx hates just about damn near everything, so what he said here ain't so special.

It just seems like it happens in this thread more than others, and is usually fueled by the fact that the toy is unobtainable, not cause they actually dont like it

The problem is you saying you don't like something that Shigeru created, is tantamount to CEO of McDonald's saying he doesn't like french fries. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

to be honest when I first saw the photos I didnt like. I finally just saw it in person a week ago, and yes, IT BLEW MY MIND. Its not shop cheap plastic made in China bullshit. Its Japanese vinyl and shows a really highly elevated level of craftmanship and "nextlevelness"

BTW if anyone wants one of these "Zombies" but can't find them, Toys R Us has a decent alternative with their, "Walking Dead", Zombie line... Retail at 15-16.99

yea nice try, not the same thing, but keep trying though, im enjoying this...


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Not going to lie, I want this even more now!

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EAT YOUR SKIN OFF!


love it, actually wait I dont, hate it, sorry ;)

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Listen if I was in the same position, I would be the same way, I'm not hating on Greg, I love Mishka clothing, I read the Bloglin, and if I was in the same position with their overseas friend I would tread lightly as well, that said, I don't expect to ever hear anything negative come from Greg, or Lamour, or Coop, about the Nags...


Haha, I wish you could all see the emails back and forth over the past couple of years between me and shig. Does anyone remember the " I HATE MISHKA" version?

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If like something I say something, other than that, I just keep my mouth shut

But bring the hate, haters are always welcome, and makes you feel like you are doing something right


Now I'm not sure if I want Greg to like my toy when I release it or hate my toy, I'm so confused! :D

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Any pictures of said zombie without the clothes on? We haven't even seen the whole sculpt yet. There might be a deep dark secret behind those khakis...


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Thanks Greg!! Wait, WTF?!?
Hahahaha! :lol:

Bring down the hate and CREATE!!!!


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And I know for a fact that Lixx hates just about damn near everything, so what he said here ain't so special.


Nay I don't hate everything! I'd own nothing if I hated everything. I was just taking the piss, but there is no such thing as good natured jostling on this super serious board anymore. I was just joking around by saying I'll make you a doll that looks zombified for less. I'll never abide by that "If you can't say something positive don't say anything". Nope sorry, jeez get a thicker skin if you can't take criticism. I could have said looks like a lump of shit my dog tore apart, but I was having a go. People can make fun of all the things I collect- Butanohana, M1, Zollmen, Hukkokudo, Shikaruna etc etc. Rolls off my back. Actually I like it when people don't like what I like, means I'll probably have an easier time finding what I need.

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I'm an equal opportunity hater Greg. Hype's got nothing to do with it, although I'm quite sure this would never even be mentioned if it wasn't by the Nag guy. If I don't like something I don't like something. If you think this is such a special toy I got some ice I can sell to eskimos. Oh and last I checked I can totally say whatever THE FUCK I want. Dolls don't have precious feelings.


Dude say whatever the fuck you want. Like I said, if I was misrable, I would post in every thread of every crappy toy I hate on this board.
But thats not me, If I dont like something, I dont say anything (usually) If like something I say something, other than that, I just keep my mouth shut

But bring the hate, haters are always welcome, and makes you feel like you are doing something right


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It just seems like it happens in this thread more than others, and is usually fueled by the fact that the toy is unobtainable, not cause they actually dont like it


It's a myth that I'm miserable really. Actually I'm a fun loving guy. That 'equal opportunity hater' thing was another joke. You're right haters usually hate because they secretly want something or want to be accepted by what they hate. I can assure you that's not the case here. I don't like this or the Nag. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion right? It's ok to get upset if someone says they don't like something you do, but you gots to shrug that shit off mate. Me making a joke should not get your panties in a bunch.

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I bet if Shigeru did that, and then showed it to you, you would still be carrying on about how Shigeru just blew your mind.

When I was in Japan, he did just that, my mind was and is blown.


So your saying you got a preview of the Zombie when you were in Japan?

No seriously fuck it, I have no bone in this, I love your clothing line, and hey "Greg Mishka is Talking at me" but I got to be honest... I was prepared to like this, and now that I've seen it , I just don't think it's that impressive, and if I thought it was going to be a lower priced toy, than I wouldn't be so harsh, but your using words like "Quality" and "Next level shit", which leads me to believe it's going to be too expensive for me to justify buying.

Just for the record, If those pants come off, and there truly is something "Next Level" in them Jeans, than I'll eat that hand full of shit we keep throwing at each other...

Peace...

P.S. Sell some of those Nags and Getcha teeth fixed...

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I actually think more would like it if it WASN'T by Shig. I have a feeling there's a stigma, even if it's not right up front in the brain, about WHO makes a figure and how it's sold and how many are made, not what is made.


Hate to kiss this guys ass, but Blood always knows what the fuck is up and tells it like it is.

Some people are going to dislike the figure only because Shigeru made it, while some are going to love it for the same reason.

People are going to critique the shit out of anything Shigeru puts out now or in the future due to the history of the Boryoku Genjin, that is expected, so there's no point in crying about people being hyper critical. It doesn't matter what Shigeru came up with next, as long as we know who made it, none of us here will ever have an unbiased opinion as long as we've witnessed and contributed to the discussion on the hype behind the Boryoku Genjin. If Shigeru was to read the "negative" comments (I think those in defense of Shigeru are mistaking hyper critical analysis of the figure as pure negativity), he wouldn't really have the right to complain, as the issues most people have in regards to NagNagNag as an entity are a result of the sales and distribution method, which was a decision made by Shigeru, and Shigeru alone. This bitterness was bound to be carried along to the next thing brought on by Shigeru as long as he kept his current business model, which I assume is definitely the case with this figure. However, I doubt Shigeru really cares what we think, as his current business model, though I and many others don't agree with it, seems to be working just fine.

There's just too much cognitive dissonance around here. I think people don't know what they want anymore. Some people want the figure 'cause it's hot, others know their chance of scoring is probably going to be slim, so they're going to try to convince themselves that it's "not all that great," others are ashamed to want a figure strictly due to hype, so they attempt to assure themselves along with others that they "genuinely" like the figure, which may be true, but their "need" to have the figure is most likely fueled by the hype, at least to some extent. Like I said, and this relates to Blood's original statement, I don't think any of us here have an unbiased opinion, no matter what we try to make ourselves or others believe.

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If like something I say something, other than that, I just keep my mouth shut

But bring the hate, haters are always welcome, and makes you feel like you are doing something right


Now I'm not sure if I want Greg to like my toy when I release it or hate my toy, I'm so confused! :D


I think the only thread I ever hated on was the Kaws thread. I am a fan of Kaws but I think the toys he puts out are overpriced and overhyped

Especially for the fact that they are made in China and usually have a run of 500 pcs +

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And I know for a fact that Lixx hates just about damn near everything, so what he said here ain't so special.


Nay I don't hate everything! I'd own nothing if I hated everything. I was just taking the piss, but there is no such thing as good natured jostling on this super serious board anymore. I was just joking around by saying I'll make you a doll that looks zombified for less. I'll never abide by that "If you can't say something positive don't say anything". Nope sorry, jeez get a thicker skin if you can't take criticism. I could have said looks like a lump of shit my dog tore apart, but I was having a go. People can make fun of all the things I collect- Butanohana, M1, Zollmen, Hukkokudo, Shikaruna etc etc. Rolls off my back. Actually I like it when people don't like what I like, means I'll probably have an easier time finding what I need.

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I'm an equal opportunity hater Greg. Hype's got nothing to do with it, although I'm quite sure this would never even be mentioned if it wasn't by the Nag guy. If I don't like something I don't like something. If you think this is such a special toy I got some ice I can sell to eskimos. Oh and last I checked I can totally say whatever THE FUCK I want. Dolls don't have precious feelings.


Dude say whatever the fuck you want. Like I said, if I was misrable, I would post in every thread of every crappy toy I hate on this board.
But thats not me, If I dont like something, I dont say anything (usually) If like something I say something, other than that, I just keep my mouth shut

But bring the hate, haters are always welcome, and makes you feel like you are doing something right


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It just seems like it happens in this thread more than others, and is usually fueled by the fact that the toy is unobtainable, not cause they actually dont like it


It's a myth that I'm miserable really. Actually I'm a fun loving guy. That 'equal opportunity hater' thing was another joke. You're right haters usually hate because they secretly want something or want to be accepted by what they hate. I can assure you that's not the case here. I don't like this or the Nag. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion right? It's ok to get upset if someone says they don't like something you do, but you gots to shrug that shit off mate. Me making a joke should not get your panties in a bunch.


This is my point. If you dont even like the Nag why do you come to this thread then? Just to hate. Its like seriously not necessary really. If you told me you were a Nag fan but not fan of this scuplt is one thing. but to come into this thread and just hate? its pathetic.

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I bet if Shigeru did that, and then showed it to you, you would still be carrying on about how Shigeru just blew your mind.

When I was in Japan, he did just that, my mind was and is blown.


So your saying you got a preview of the Zombie when you were in Japan?

No seriously fuck it, I have no bone in this, I love your clothing line, and hey "Greg Mishka is Talking at me" but I got to be honest... I was prepared to like this, and now that I've seen it , I just don't think it's that impressive, and if I thought it was going to be a lower priced toy, than I wouldn't be so harsh, but your using words like "Quality" and "Next level shit", which leads me to believe it's going to be too expensive for me to justify buying.

Just for the record, If those pants come off, and there truly is something "Next Level" in them Jeans, than I'll eat that hand full of shit we keep throwing at each other...

Peace...

P.S. Sell some of those Nags and Getcha teeth fixed...



Just let me know how you feel when you see it in person. Like I said, I didnt really like it when I saw the photos, but loved it when I got to see it and hold it.

Its actually going to be less than some of the nag releases because he brought it direct to the states.

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This is my point. If you dont even like the Nag why do you come to this thread then? Just to hate. Its like seriously not necessary really. If you told me you were a Nag fan but not fan of this scuplt is one thing. but to come into this thread and just hate? its pathetic.


Oh I'm sorry I didn't know when I came to SB that I wasn't allowed to read all topics? It's called 'view new posts'. I was perusing, saw the pic and made a comment. It's not some big plot like you think. And have I used the word HATE? I said don't like, never said hate. But since you like to up it a notch on the personal level I think YOU are pathetic.

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I saw Shig tonight! He's such an oddball! And no I didn't see any nag anything.

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The more I see this guy the more possibilities I see. How about a dead hulk version !!

And man I hope Shig is there all weekend, would love to meet the man :)


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I am a fan of Kaws but I think the toys he puts out are overpriced and overhyped


*cough* :roll:


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Its actually going to be less than some of the nag releases because he brought it direct to the states.

Any idea if/when this might pop up at the Con? There was no sign of it at your booth.... which wouldn't sell anything.... for two hours.... but that's besides the point :D

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Any chance you guys can keep it to PMs until we actually see what's under the clothes, and then you can all start arguing again? :roll:

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From L'amour's Instagram,
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SO. VICIOUS!

Are there only ONE of these?
If not, can someone pick me up one?! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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I wanted to display the new NZOMBIE without clothes because it's the sickest thing I've held and seen. Shig said he wants the buyer to be surprised if they buy one. He calls the reveal a secret for each owner to discover. And anyone who just buys and sells without opening will be bereft of the surprise. Pretty fucking zen. Shig is at the MISHKA booth. I watched him bag up his toys and talk aboutthe process. He truly is a zen punk master when it comes to making toys.

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Will he be there all weekend ?


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so they are being sold at nycc.

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From L'amour's Instagram,
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SO. VICIOUS!

Are there only ONE of these?
If not, can someone pick me up one?! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:



amazing, luckily for the people who go to the NYCC

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Damn!!!! I was right there.... those were nowhere to be found when you guys opened. :shock:

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