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tavaro
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Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:25 pm Posts: 3165 Location: L.A.
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Frank, you are from spain right?
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:03 am |
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Dean
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Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:53 pm Posts: 6232 Location: 415
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I think that perspective is why sometimes people who immigrated here from elsewhere make some of the best Americans. For many years I was close friends with a woman from Iran who I thought of as the most American yuppie I'd ever met because of her work ethic and positive embrace of how business works here. It was hard for her to return to Iran when she chose to but seeing what was possible for women in the USA gave her the conviction that she could work to empower women in Iran even within the increasingly Islamist-dominating system there. She loved movies and was able to get a women's filmmaking group together in Tehran after her return. Sometimes Americans who were born here have a somewhat spoiled perspective. We forget that we have it pretty easy in some ways. There are things I see that I sort of prefer when I visit other countries e.g. the intellectual sophistication in Europe that gets demonized by many in the USA or the very decent basic social values I've seen in Mexico that have gotten lost in a "me first" mindset in the USA, but ultimately I am very glad to have been born here and try not to take the positive things about the USA for granted.
I'm thinking about a photo that a respected Skullbrainer posted recently, of his adorable young daughter hugging a Bemon. If the Bemon dude saw that and had a negative reaction because the girl isn't Japanese, all I can saw is "what a total sourpuss!" Some things transcend nationality.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:06 am |
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Frank Kozik
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Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:53 pm Posts: 4668
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tavaro wrote: Frank, you are from spain right?
Si, soy Español.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:15 am |
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khanate
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Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:19 pm Posts: 2190
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Of course this is a great country, the whole point is that it's being fucking ruined from the inside out by this fucking piece of shit administration (well, it was started a few admins ago but has never been this bad). If anybody knows thing #1 about what has been going on in DC and the rest of the world they would see that this is quite obvious. I think the most spoiled way you can look at it is how life is for you as an american - with no regard to why it is the way it is.
People talk about how easy we have it in the USA, and because of this a lot of americans have a spoiled view of freedom, etc. Well, there is a reason we have it so easy. Do some research if you have time to break away from the comfort zone. My girl is a social worker and we've been all over this planet, and have lived in areas far off the beaten path from your average tourist shitholes that US policy doesn't even affect so I pretty much know what I'm talking about.
So yes, our freedoms rule. Our overwhelming variety of choices rule. But they're tainted by an incredibly small amount of douchebags that will tear it all down with the very same freedoms.
Go Bemon!
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:44 am |
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SmorkinDoobers
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Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:41 am Posts: 329 Location: Ft. Lauderdale
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GOD BLESS AMERICA

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kidclam
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Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:51 am Posts: 4250
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Frank Kozik wrote: well, to be honest...in 25 years of involvement with the underground and overground art , design, music, film etc scene..and now toys..I have never met 1 sungle 'american' artist or creative type that 'this is for americans only'....yet I have met , well, quite a few Japanese and European artists who say 'not for foriegner'...or 'not for american'.
pretty silly...when you consider that there are no 'americans'...all of the people on this continent ( including native tribes') camer over here from over there, and most of them quite recently.
At its base, having spent a lot of time in Europe ( 17 years) and japan ( maybe 2 years total over many small times),,it's more of a 'class' thing for europeans ( americans are lower class and a 'race' thing for the Japanese. I have found even the most 'mellow' people in Japan are pretty blatantly racist and xenophobic once they figure they can relax around you.
hmm, it's the same with Australians... I mean it all started with UK convicts and it's only been what.. 200 year history? Which doesn't equal to too many generations of "Aussies". However you get your shit load of racists there.
Also I don't blame the Japanese who have partial or full hatred against the Americans. Did anyone mention the Atom Bomb? This Bemon san probably lost some of his family from it?? Ain't most of the manga, TV and superflat movement a cause and effect from the bomb???
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:07 am |
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Robert DeCastro
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Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:31 am Posts: 2216 Location: In Limbo
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khanate wrote: Of course this is a great country, the whole point is that it's being fucking ruined from the inside out by this fucking piece of shit administration (well, it was started a few admins ago but has never been this bad). If anybody knows thing #1 about what has been going on in DC and the rest of the world they would see that this is quite obvious. I think the most spoiled way you can look at it is how life is for you as an american - with no regard to why it is the way it is.
People talk about how easy we have it in the USA, and because of this a lot of americans have a spoiled view of freedom, etc. Well, there is a reason we have it so easy. Do some research if you have time to break away from the comfort zone. My girl is a social worker and we've been all over this planet, and have lived in areas far off the beaten path from your average tourist shitholes that US policy doesn't even affect so I pretty much know what I'm talking about.
So yes, our freedoms rule. Our overwhelming variety of choices rule. But they're tainted by an incredibly small amount of douchebags that will tear it all down with the very same freedoms.
Go Bemon!
Oh man, each generation as far back as the civil war has said & thought what you already have about this country. I would think that the Vietnam era admin was the worst it has ever been. Do THAT research and compare cost of lives and money. I've done the peace corp thing for several years so I also know of "shithole" places in the ass crack of earth I've also seen and have lived with the dirt poor from my own country. If you have a prob with the admin then speak clearly and don't lump em all up as one state to "get wiped out". Someone might get the wrong Idea about you. Say what you mean and mean what you say..we cool.
Go America!!! sha......
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:11 am |
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khanate
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Robert DeCastro wrote: khanate wrote: Of course this is a great country, the whole point is that it's being fucking ruined from the inside out by this fucking piece of shit administration (well, it was started a few admins ago but has never been this bad). If anybody knows thing #1 about what has been going on in DC and the rest of the world they would see that this is quite obvious. I think the most spoiled way you can look at it is how life is for you as an american - with no regard to why it is the way it is.
People talk about how easy we have it in the USA, and because of this a lot of americans have a spoiled view of freedom, etc. Well, there is a reason we have it so easy. Do some research if you have time to break away from the comfort zone. My girl is a social worker and we've been all over this planet, and have lived in areas far off the beaten path from your average tourist shitholes that US policy doesn't even affect so I pretty much know what I'm talking about.
So yes, our freedoms rule. Our overwhelming variety of choices rule. But they're tainted by an incredibly small amount of douchebags that will tear it all down with the very same freedoms.
Go Bemon! Oh man, each generation as far back as the civil war has said & thought what you already have about this country. I would think that the Vietnam era admin was the worst it has ever been. Do THAT research and compare cost of lives and money. I've done the peace corp thing for several years so I also know of "shithole" places in the ass crack of earth I've also seen and have lived with the dirt poor from my own country. If you have a prob with the admin then speak clearly and don't lump em all up as one state to "get wiped out". Someone might get the wrong Idea about you. Say what you mean and mean what you say..we cool. Go America!!! sha......
well yeah, that DC comment was a pretty blanket comment but it was a quick way to get an idea across on a BB...replace "washington dc" with "pentagon". There you go 
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Robert DeCastro
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Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:31 am Posts: 2216 Location: In Limbo
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khanate wrote: well yeah, that DC comment was a pretty blanket comment but it was a quick way to get an idea across on a BB...replace "washington dc" with "pentagon". There you go 
Yup, but I heard that some duude in the mountains of Afganistan sent some guys to do just that. Almost did it to.. Osama something I believe. That was HIS quick way to get his idea across.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:24 am |
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khanate
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you don't even want to know my views on that. nuff said.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:35 am |
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Nice bemon.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:54 am |
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Frank Kozik
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khanate wrote: Of course this is a great country, the whole point is that it's being fucking ruined from the inside out by this fucking piece of shit administration (well, it was started a few admins ago but has never been this bad). If anybody knows thing #1 about what has been going on in DC and the rest of the world they would see that this is quite obvious. I think the most spoiled way you can look at it is how life is for you as an american - with no regard to why it is the way it is.
People talk about how easy we have it in the USA, and because of this a lot of americans have a spoiled view of freedom, etc. Well, there is a reason we have it so easy. Do some research if you have time to break away from the comfort zone. My girl is a social worker and we've been all over this planet, and have lived in areas far off the beaten path from your average tourist shitholes that US policy doesn't even affect so I pretty much know what I'm talking about.
So yes, our freedoms rule. Our overwhelming variety of choices rule. But they're tainted by an incredibly small amount of douchebags that will tear it all down with the very same freedoms.
Go Bemon!
It used to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. You just didnt live through it. Great Depression, WW2, Segregation, Nixon, Cold Wrar, McCarthyism....way worse.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:57 am |
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Paulkaiju
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Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:40 pm Posts: 3847 Location: SD
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Frank Kozik
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Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:53 pm Posts: 4668
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Hiroshima and Nagasaki where pretty heinous, but I think Operation Olympic would have been way worse.
Also, the total firebombing of every large japanese city except for Kyoto, which was spared, killed many multiples.
So, that point can be argued forever.
I do believe tho, that Nationalist Japan started tht articular mess in 1936 by invading China etc. Like, they where the aggressor.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:02 pm |
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khanate
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Let's just say that there's always fucked up stuff going on in almost every corner of the world and leave it at that.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:08 pm |
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Frank Kozik
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not in Unicorn Land. Its just rainbows and frosted poptarts.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:12 pm |
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kidclam
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khanate wrote: Let's just say that there's always fucked up stuff going on in almost every corner of the world and leave it at that.
no matter what we say or feel I guess Bemon san has already made up his mind.
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LamourSupreme
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I think this thread is going south. we all should respect everyones views even though we might percieve them as wrong. this is about toys and politics is nothing but a tool of division. bemon rules, japan and usa rule. let's all agree to disagree. btw, I would never go against another toy makers wishes out of respect. I just wanted to show my appreciation and ispiration. if that's taken with fear and loathing, that's all good too.
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Frank Kozik
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I make no judgement. Dude dislikes foriegners, his problem.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:21 pm |
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rhinomilk
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jojo the dog faced boy
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Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:03 am Posts: 2007 Location: Melting in the desert....
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aren't we all just strangers in a strange land?
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jojo the dog faced boy
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thanks for reminding me about the frosted poptarts....i'm hungry
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abelincolnjr
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Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:46 pm Posts: 3200 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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You think Bemon dude cries himself to sleep listening to "I wanna know what love is"
The hate hides the hurt, is all im saying
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:26 pm |
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Frank Kozik
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Blueberry Frosted Poptarts
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| Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:27 pm |
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jojo the dog faced boy
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what, like looking at that picture isn't torture enough?? now i need that horrible tune stuck in my head??
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