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dedoperucelli
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 the serpent of Adam & Eve
this is my new prototype ready for the silicone rubber. let me know What do you think about   
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Winu
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I really like this! I wish there was more body being shown though.
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Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:04 am |
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kopponigen
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I like this more than lord of flies! I would like to see a bit more body too.
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Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:16 pm |
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dedoperucelli
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Axolotl wrote: I like this more than lord of flies! I would like to see a bit more body too. I made the small body size for two reasons: to save money on rubber and to be sure of being able to make the mold 
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uberboy
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it's well made and the features really pop. but did you intentionally make the biblical serpent have african facial features? i'm not judging, but its definitely there. just wondering if there was a reason.
i like the small body. you could cut off the head at the neck and add a small peg under the neck. then you can experiment with different body sizes for the same head. of course, make your mold of the whole figure before cutting the head off. i think you could really make another bigger body using the same head.
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dedoperucelli
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uberboy wrote: it's well made and the features really pop. but did you intentionally make the biblical serpent have african facial features? i'm not judging, but its definitely there. just wondering if there was a reason.
i like the small body. you could cut off the head at the neck and add a small peg under the neck. then you can experiment with different body sizes for the same head. of course, make your mold of the whole figure before cutting the head off. i think you could really make another bigger body using the same head. Africa is intentionally! I think it expresses the primitive form. I do not know if I have time to split the head from the body 
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Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:28 am |
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Anti Social Andy
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My mom taught me that I should keep quiet if I didn't have anything nice to say . . .
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dedoperucelli
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Scary Andy wrote: My mom taught me that I should keep quiet if I didn't have anything nice to say . . . maybe I did not understand what you mean ... or maybe I have not been able to write correctly in your language what I meant... sono italiano
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uberboy
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i'm guessing that what Andy is not saying is this: in a judeo-christian/euro-centric world, making the biblical serpent look like an african man can be viewed as offensive. calling facial features typical to africans "primitive" is also offensive. primitive sculpture from africa is some of the oldest art around, but it doesn't really look like the people themselves, with the exception of some masks. your "african" look here is more typical of 19th century minstrel humor or early television and radio's comedic butler/cook type. this is a popular/demonized style of representing african people, but it is a reflection of popular culture's history.
whether or not its a racist sentiment really all depends on the history of the artist and their intent in that representation. irony can go a long way in defusing potentially volatile art reactions, but it needs to be there on purpose.
maybe its not such a sensitive issue in other countries as it is in the US.
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dedoperucelli
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uberboy wrote: i'm guessing that what Andy is not saying is this: in a judeo-christian/euro-centric world, making the biblical serpent look like an african man can be viewed as offensive. calling facial features typical to africans "primitive" is also offensive. primitive sculpture from africa is some of the oldest art around, but it doesn't really look like the people themselves, with the exception of some masks. your "african" look here is more typical of 19th century minstrel humor or early television and radio's comedic butler/cook type. this is a popular/demonized style of representing african people, but it is a reflection of popular culture's history.
whether or not its a racist sentiment really all depends on the history of the artist and their intent in that representation. irony can go a long way in defusing potentially volatile art reactions, but it needs to be there on purpose.
maybe its not such a sensitive issue in other countries as it is in the US.  actually I do not mean this ... I could not imagine that it might seem. Abstract: I use a machine translator.  I do not mean primitive in a negative way ... for me, "primitive" and "initiative" and to chronicle ... I'm not Catholic and not Christian. I had fun just to carve.  in Italy we have not spent time at racism against black people. now I understand that you might irritate ... but there is not my intention. for information ... in Italy we have many representations of black madonnas http://www.google.it/images?um=1&hl=it&rlz=1T4GGLL_itIT342IT342&tbs=isch:1&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&gs_rfai=&q=madonna%20nera%20di
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bunnyboy
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I have a feeling Andy still hates it... 
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kopponigen
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Good point, yes, I think this is a little bit different in the US than in other places. uberboy wrote: maybe its not such a sensitive issue in other countries as it is in the US.
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