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Score one for the good guys! Canned hunt goes wrong...

Exotic deer gores man to death in Kerr County

By Mark Lisheron | Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 10:45 AM

A rare deer known for its full, sharply pointed rack gored to death a 27-year-old game manager last week at the Y.O. Ranch, a nationally known exotic game hunting ranch about 100 miles west of Austin.

Brandon Buchi, 27, of Mountain Home, suffered puncture wounds to the side and thigh after the deer, known as a barasingha, attacked after Buchi removed it from a transport trailer on the ranch grounds Thursday, Kerrville County Sheriff Rusty Hierholzer said Wednesday. A volunteer firefighter who witnessed the goring attempted CPR unsuccessfully, Hierholzer said.

The barasingha died from the exertion of the attack, not an uncommon response from deer and some other exotic species, Hierholzer said. “They can be very aggressive,” Hierholzer said. “This was very unfortunate.”

Hierholzer said that in at least 30 years he could not remember a fatal attack like it in Kerr County, which has developed a reputation for its exotic Hill Country game ranches.

The Y. O. Ranch, founded in 1880, is one of the best known. The ranch is known for attracting private celebrity hunting parties, Hierholzer said. From Dec. 10-14 the Y.O. Ranch is hosting, at a cost of $3,500 a hunter, the Ranch Birthday Huntbash with Ted Nugent.

The ranch stocks rare species from around the world, including yak, wildebeest and 17 different kinds of antelope. A barasingha, which means 12-tined or horned in Hindi, is a deer native to India and Nepal. The barasingha, which looks like a small elk, has thrived on American exotic game ranches where ranch operators fetch thousands of dollars from people to hunt them.


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I'm neither pro-, nor anti-hunting. I don't know if admire is the right word, but I "admire" hunters who kill their own meat. Trophy hunting kinda disgusts me though. So it's nice to see that, despite all the disadvantages, at least sometimes the animal wins. Can't be too upset about dying if you were planning on killing.

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In America, the best thing that hunters do is buy up local land and refuse to turn it over to developers. One of the worst: Many hunters feel discriminated against and seem to side with the NRA in its support of urban handgun legalization, assault weapons, etc...
Although, not all hunters are crazy gun nuts. Bowhunters are hard core and fishing is hunting too. In my mind, hunting and fishing is a hundred times less dirty for your soul than supporting the non-ritualistic slaughter that occurs in the meat industry. Disconnected murder on a large scale has to be worse than spending a saturday stalking a wild animal right?

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Hunting local game is one thing. 'Stocking' a fenced in parcel w/ non-indeginous, exotic 'trophy' game is another.


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true, but what if it were for science? for psychology!

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Admit it - you love Ted Nugent :wink:


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Go deer!

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true, but what if it were for science? for psychology!

What?!

Aside from my what comment, you risk opening this up to the world of testing on animals as well as hunting.
Oh no... is this going to end up be the animal rights thread?

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oh, we can have an integrated team of human AND animal scientists study the psychological effects of hunting on both prey and predator. to escape the kill: what kind of lasting trauma is created? are evasion skills learned through repeated close calls? to lose the kill: is the hunter given a case of psychologically backwards blueballs from his near kill? does his will suffer or grow stronger from defeat?

these type of things, as well as bloodlust, self-preservation, gluttony, greed, strength, would all be tested. a variety of weapons and armor will be provided to the subjects by our Zoo of scientists. exciting! who's gonna come forward with the funding? flynn?

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Mess with the barasingha, you get the horns. But on a serious note, I grew up in a family that was all about hunting and fishing, both of which I took part in on occasion, so I support hunting (even though I'm now vegetarian) when done right. In other words, when it's about taking an active role in the food chain, not killing something so you can have a creepy knickknack. All of these hunting ranches that release animals so rich assholes can feel macho/down to earth/primal/etc. are despicable.


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fuck that dude... i hope the nuge gets gored


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The Nuge is a sissy. I saw him harassing anti-fur protesters in front of Neiman Marcus in SF a few years back, safely protected by on-duty SFPD officers who were having a ball with their Teddy. Takes a real man to heckle harmless lefty protesters while protected by sympathetic irresponsible cops. ;-)

The Nuge is hard not to like in some ways. He's a plain spoken upbeat kind of guy, but you know, a sissy. Now if he were to get naked, maybe put on some fake tusks or antlers and THEN go hunting wild game without firearms or any other sort of weaponry, I might change my assessment...

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I feel like Ted Nugent started to buy into the image people have of him and tries to perpetuate it. He's still a douche nozzle, just of a different variety. I saw him live a couple of years ago (other people backed out and I wasn't about to say no), and it was simultaneously the best and worst thing I've ever seen. Same reasons for both.


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If you are dumb enough to take this large endangered "Swamp Deer" (with a series of spears attached to its head) into captivity, then be be nearby while it is more traumatized than it ever has been. you just might be askin' for death. I grew up in an avid hunting/fishing home. We always had meat... pops wouldn't think of shooting something for the hell of it.
For the record, the only hunting I do is with my camera 8)

I agree with antknee: if you pay thousands of dollars to kill on a "game farm," you are an ass-hat.

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havingmysay wrote:
fuck that dude... i hope the nuge gets gored


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Don't want to wish ill on people to prove a point about animal rights. Anything being killed or harmed should be frowned upon. Just saying.

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by all means, frown away. frowning seems to be god's policy towards killing too.

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The Nuge is a sissy. I saw him harassing anti-fur protesters in front of Neiman Marcus in SF a few years back, safely protected by on-duty SFPD officers who were having a ball with their Teddy. Takes a real man to heckle harmless lefty protesters while protected by sympathetic irresponsible cops. ;-)

i actually kind of like this about him. but then again, i've always been a "kick them when there back is turned (and then run) / hitting a guy with glasses" type guy...

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uberboy wrote:
frowning seems to be god's policy towards killing too.

The Great Frowner must have one massively wrinkled forehead.

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