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i just want to add in here that if you post your stuff on the board, be prepared for criticism.

if people don't like your work, you're still putting it out there for people to view and react to.

interesting reading here...let's keep this debate going :)

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this thread is too hard for me to read. too many long sentinces.

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Bottom line: you buy a $40 figure, slap some paint on it, throw it up in the sales thread for $120....you're taking advantage of the board...and people will call you out.

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i just want to add in here that if you post your stuff on the board, be prepared for criticism.

if people don't like your work, you're still putting it out there for people to view and react to.

interesting reading here...let's keep this debate going :)


True...but there is a big difference from people giving good crit ("I really like how you used the blue to make the yellow eyes pop..." or "I don't like how the red and violet are too close in shades...they kind of blend too much..."), or just spouting off crap ("Awesome work!! Do more please!! :twisted: " or "That sucks!!"). The lack of good criticism is what makes me not want to post anything up. Instead, I just keep it on my flickr and bring it with me on release days to show the gang. I'm not going to waste your time or mine and post something that get's one liners as comments that have no meaning or are helpful in anyway.
Besides, as a paintbrush user, I am already looked down upon by the masses because it is not "the way" it is done. I'll just keep on going and keep it underground. If you want to see what I've done, it's not hard to find.

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Bottom line: you buy a $40 figure, slap some paint on it, throw it up in the sales thread for $120....you're taking advantage of the board...and people will call you out.


yeah, i do have a problem with the cart blanc treatment of the chaos and evil

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Bottom line: you buy a $40 figure, slap some paint on it, throw it up in the sales thread for $120....you're taking advantage of the board...and people will call you out.

Bottom line is, if you like the custom, pm the maker with a price...and start haggling. If you want to post it for sale, take it to the bay. If you post it for trade, don't ask for something outrageous.

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Bottom line: I am a bitter elitist


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I thought we already established this a long time ago... :D

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Bottom line is, if you like the custom, pm the maker with a price...and start haggling.


if someone did this to me, i'd go tell them to fuck themself.

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gatchabert wrote:
Bottom line is, if you like the custom, pm the maker with a price...and start haggling.


if someone did this to me, i'd go tell them to fuck themself.


That's not how haggling works... :wink:


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gatchabert wrote:
Bottom line is, if you like the custom, pm the maker with a price...and start haggling.


if someone did this to me, i'd go tell them to fuck themself.

...and now you can Death Squid them too...lol
Speaking of the squidy, will you be painting that thing?

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gatchabert wrote:
Bottom line is, if you like the custom, pm the maker with a price...and start haggling.


if someone did this to me, i'd go tell them to fuck themself.


Yeah, but all I did was ask you how were doing the other day....and you told me to go fuck myself!

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Let's not turn BST into a collection of webstores pimping customs.


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rhinomilk wrote:
gatchabert wrote:
Bottom line is, if you like the custom, pm the maker with a price...and start haggling.


if someone did this to me, i'd go tell them to fuck themself.


That's not how haggling works... :wink:


just teaching you how to do business people.

although i have negotiated deals that involved the difference of $3 and we met in between at $1.50

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Lots of these toys are based on shows and movies from YEARS ago... Who's to say the original creators wanted them to be made into toys today... Wouldn't that be disrespectful?


Not unless it's an unlicensed bootleg, in which case the copyright holder is being cheated. Japanese monsters have been licensed for toys at least since Godzilla, specifically by the copyright holders. Witness Tsuburaya Productions aka Yamanaya. The fact that this is true to this day indicates something more like the opposite of disrespect as I see it, being the ongoing love of the toys and the monsters.


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This thread makes baby Jesus cry.


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Yeah, but all I did was ask you how were doing the other day....and you told me to go fuck myself!


you have a PM to eat shit!

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...and now you can Death Squid them too...lol
Speaking of the squidy, will you be painting that thing?


i like it too much the way it is. clear smoke grey vinyl is too cool on it

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This thread makes baby Jesus cry.


Seems to happen every so often.
Remember the Manimal custom thread? Good times.


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i like ugly customs.... for me to poop on!

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liquidsky wrote:
Bottom line: I am a bitter elitist


LOL well you make some good points and make them well. I especially appreciated your comments about wanting something Japanese, not something made in Japan and co-branded by a fanboi. Well actually that's my evil re-interpretation of what you'd said but you know what I mean.

:twisted: :D


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LASH wrote:
This thread makes baby Jesus cry.


Actually it's a healthy debate. Nobody is forcing Baby Jesus to look. :-)


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LASH wrote:
This thread makes baby Jesus cry.


And it makes Chuck Norris select a baby at random and kick it into the sun... :lol:

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atease wrote:
i just want to add in here that if you post your stuff on the board, be prepared for criticism.

if people don't like your work, you're still putting it out there for people to view and react to.

interesting reading here...let's keep this debate going :)


True...but there is a big difference from people giving good crit ("I really like how you used the blue to make the yellow eyes pop..." or "I don't like how the red and violet are too close in shades...they kind of blend too much..."), or just spouting off crap ("Awesome work!! Do more please!! :twisted: " or "That sucks!!"). The lack of good criticism is what makes me not want to post anything up. Instead, I just keep it on my flickr and bring it with me on release days to show the gang. I'm not going to waste your time or mine and post something that get's one liners as comments that have no meaning or are helpful in anyway.
Besides, as a paintbrush user, I am already looked down upon by the masses because it is not "the way" it is done. I'll just keep on going and keep it underground. If you want to see what I've done, it's not hard to find.



Oh i completely agree with you bert. I think the majority of people tend to avoid the customs forum these days because of the very thing you're talking about.
If you're going to criticize it, tell the person why it sucks/is good in more than one line. it's annoying to wade through five pages of praise as well. For a while there, everyone loved everything that was being posted, and frankly that just seems ridiculous to me.
you can't like everything all of the time, and the nice thing is we all have our own taste.

As for painting production pieces, I'm against it. blanks were made for this reason.
Parka mentioned that devilman evil. I'd love to know how many of those exist in their original paint scheme now. They sat on S7 for ages, and it took me almost a year to finally get mine.

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Is it known that a lot of the Devilman Evils were painted over, or is this just an educated guess based on the fact that it was slow to catch fire?

Funny how that can be. I saw the WF "Toxic Avenger" Chaosman on the shelf at S7 for quite awhile. It seems that now that it's harder to land, people appreciate its crazy paint scheme more.


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Is it known that a lot of the Devilman Evils were painted over, or is this just an educated guess based on the fact that it was slow to catch fire?


I think it's pretty much confirmed...


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