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TiredChildren
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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:12 pm Posts: 3416 Location: Melbourne, FL
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 Re: I am not Charlie
For the record I didn't add the banner as a statement on whether or not guns are a good idea. Steph asked me to put the banner up, and here's why I thought it was appropriate (from the article that Glenn linked to): That NY Daily News article wrote: He added, “But if people are protesting to defend freedom of speech, naturally that's a good thing."
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ted kopper
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Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:48 pm Posts: 2490 Location: Los Angeles
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 Re: I am not Charlie
nefasth wrote: I never thought showing a little compassion for a simple cause would lead to a debate like this one. It's sad. This. This place is too punk rock to not give a shit.
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goofy
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Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:15 am Posts: 37 Location: France
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If you are for the freedom of expression you are charlie if you're not…  Invention of the humor oil + fire
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psilo110
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Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:38 am Posts: 2476 Location: NY NJ PA
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 Re: I am not Charlie
goofy wrote: If you are for the freedom of expression you are charlie if you're not…
tweeting & retweeting does nothing to stop a very real threat to your country & your way of life. petitetoilonrouge wrote: Well, it seems to be working -so- well with Amurica right now. Good luck coming up with another round of inspirational sloganeering when terrorists return for the rest of your Charlies.
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hellointerloper
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Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:49 pm Posts: 1199 Location: CT, United States
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 Re: I am not Charlie
All I can say about the subject is that if I was a cartoonist drawing things that offend a particular group of super-crazy murderers, I would have definitely had a gun in my desk. I think it's a little too late to speculate about different outcomes and such, but I think there is one thing we can all agree on...
...it's utterly ridiculous that the perpetrators were even allowed in France. If I read right, one of these guys went to fight against US and coalition forces back in 2008, I think? Wouldn't that automatically mark you as a treasoner against France? Why was he allowed to live there or enter the country again? Why are governments so hesitant to kick extremists of any kind the hell out of their country?
I think every Western country needs to do some rethinking about policy and protection.
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goofy
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Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:15 am Posts: 37 Location: France
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 Re: I am not Charlie
The domestic partner of Charb, the Charlie Hebdo director's, explained on tv that he thought of getting himself a weapon.
I think that he (they) would have being armed because they were threatened since a long time
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Chogokin Jawa
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Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:54 am Posts: 542 Location: France
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Thank you James & Stéphane for this initiative. That means a lot and this is deeply appreciated.
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Dean
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Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:53 pm Posts: 6232 Location: 415
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There's nothing wrong with empathy and unity in the name of free expression and civility. I don't usually consider this site the most political of places but in this case merci beaucoup for the sentiment.
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Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:27 am |
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666doll
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Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:28 am Posts: 4010 Location: Long Beach Rock City
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 Re: I am not Charlie
I have to go on the record with an apology here. It's no secret that I am not a fan of our MB sponsors and when I saw the new, albeit temporary banner, I was offended. I thought that it was a cheap attempt at trying to look sympathetic for all the wrong reasons. It wouldn't be the first time. Hence my original post. I did not know it was asked by a member. That being said, I am not above admitting when I am wrong and I was wrong. My apologies.
Carry on
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