Very true, but I'd jut like people to own something of mine even if it's a trade for a Jequlinan, maybe someone just wants a custom, but doesn't wanna pay for it...

There's always someone out there willing to buy a custom, no matter how bad...lol

wow that's kinda sad. curious though is this something that you have seen alot or are you speaking from experiance?

Who's collection? Me, with the production piece as theres one less in the world due to being splurged on? Or you with the one-off thats deemed to be better than what the original company intended?

From seeing what some people other places buy... Not everyone has taste, but lots of people have money to burn

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but I'd have to say a collection with one offs, or hand paints that are deemed "as good, or better" tend to be a little more impressive...

I guess it just boggles my mind here that some people here wouldn't want to own a one off piece.

I also share this opinion. If a person sees something they like in the Custom forum, they should pm an offer or check into commission work. There is no reason to discourage people from creating custom paint jobs, as it is most likely fun for them and can be interesting to see someone else's take on a familiar form. Some of these views are great, others not so much...and constructive criticism is always good, even if it may be hard to swallow sometimes...


Everyone needs to remember that this is Super 7's message board. If you are going to make and sell your own customs, get your own web space and link it in your profile (it's real easy to do)...if people are interested, they'll check it out---if not, no harm done and less BS for everyone here.

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A "one-off" by Hiddy or Pushead or Mark or Brian is one thing...but, to think that a unique piece created by some "regular joe" collector has the same intrinsic value as a creator of a piece is a very conceited notion.

That said, I've seen a lot of work by PK, Toybot, Lash (to name a few) that I'd be very pleased to own...it's just not the same thing as a "creator" made piece.

I'm not just talking about me... I'm talking about all those guys too... Some people just here seem to have militant ideas on customs, or one offs in general... Not just "regular joe" customs.

I guess I'm done with this. Obviously things I'm saying keep getting misconstrude.

If you don't like customs, by anyone, don't buy them. If you do, then buy them, and don't worry what others think... Everyone should be buying toys that appeal to them, not others.

We've all seen customs that make you think "gah ... you've got a long way to go" but what I don't understand is the need to make rude cracks about them instead of either keeping one's mouth shut or offering some advice for improvement. I know that some disagree and think that some people should be specifically discouraged from continuing to do customs, but I'm sort of against discouraging creative impulses even if the person doesn't seem to have much insight or talent. I was only at art school for two years or but learned that even the people who can't draw a straight line using a ruler will improve with time and effort. Art is work.

Why would this be bad? Why would you care who sells the figures you buy?

Does the fact that Walmart sells iPods make them any less desirable than they would be if you could only buy them from Apple? (Insert your favorite high-end consumer product if you don't like iPods.)

I stay out of the customs forum cause it would just drive me crazy to see a hard to find figure painted up. If people are painting common blanks (say the Solid series) go for it though I don't see the interest in it.

I've just never seen colourizing as an art form. The artists, to me, are probably the designer (who scribbled an image) and a sculptor who meticulously rendered a sculpt. Maybe drifting closer to industrial design.

To me, a fan painting a figure is similar to someone painting a car.

One-off doesn't translate to quality and just sounds like marketing spin to me.

I'd rather buy something with an amazing paint or sculpt and a large run. There's sort of a group appreciation to a figure in that situation. Versus a one-off paint job that no one else will really appreciate or see or discuss.

I really wonder if RxH is destined to be the eastern [expletive deleted] with all of this customizing.

If I collect Eastern pieces, envisioned, created, produced and painted in Japan, why would I want to have it colourized by an American who was never involved in the design process? And what on earth "extra" could you bring to a Japanese production piece?



If you just enjoy the painting, why not paint canvases and be truly creative?



Prevents someone else from owning the original production piece versus something colourized by an American. Shows disrespect to the original painted piece.

The selling of painting customs is just a scam for the most part in my view.

C'mon man....3 straight posts?

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thread derailment..

I've never heard of the term flashpoint. Pretty cool..

Okay back to the thread discussion.

"Chemistry the temperature at which a particular organic compound gives off sufficient vapor to ignite in air."

See....I've got this problem. I'm gonna start calling it "flashpoint" from now on.

"Pardon me....it's just a little flashpoint."

Different paint, color, spray pattern. Maybe someone wants a figure painted a different way..



I enjoy customizing, and painting toys...



the original painted piece is prolly painted by 10 people in a factory... I doubt they care... Lots of these toys are based on shows and movies from YEARS ago... Who's to say the original creators wanted them to be made into toys today... Wouldn't that be disrespectful? I only customize pieces that are not sold out, and haven't for a while...



Scam? How is it a scam? I would think companies making 15 different colorways of a popular sculp more of a scam...

I seriously don't understand some of the collectors here? Doesn't anyone collect anything that's not a production piece? Do you all just go over to each others house, and go, "hey, look we all have the same stuff"... Does anyone collect for themselves, or do some of you just care about what others think of your collection...

Sounds like a rad way to think, and collect...

If anything, the act of selling any toys to grown adults is a scam. ;p

And kudos to them!

You can't collect customs, you shop for them "I want this figure painted like that" BOOYAH done, just had to talk to a customizer, pay up and there ya go.

Production pieces are collected. Only so many made by the desire of the creator and we hunt.

I'm not knocking customs, as long as they're not painted on hard to get figures, but that's the big difference to me. Looking for something vs asking/demanding something.

Just being able to get what I demand doesn't feel as special. I guess if I was more into customs my requests would all be "do what you want and surprise me" but the toy creators do that for me kinda. They do what they want and, sometimes, surprise me. But don't take any of this as talking smack.

Also, D, I think w/a lot of toys here only 1-4 people paint the production pieces not 10.

I collect for myself. I don't know anyone in town who collects toys like I do.
I could care less what others collect or like or don't like.
I just don't understand the need to own something unique and a one-off for the most part.
Just because its a one-off custom by someone doesn't make it more valuable or interesting to me.
Why would I pay more for a custom piece when I can't keep up with quality production pieces?

To me its "commissioning" versus collecting.

See I would think you are collecting the figure/sculpt... Production or not... You can have a Zag collection with customs in it...

I've collected these toys too, and I know how hard it is to find things you want, I love the chase as much as anyone... I just think there is a place for customs in anyones collection... Some people buy customs, some don't...

They are just toys, and everyone should have fun collecting, and painting them...

To me, I just like the purity of something produced in Japan.
I collect all sorts of toy lines so I can't keep up with all of them.

If I only collected X and I was bored with what they produced, maybe I would have a customizer or artist with a name paint something for me. But that's not how I collect.

My views are probably extreme and have some holes. Whatever.

I can totally understand what you're saying... I collect alot of western toys, and not 1 custom one... Not because I don't like customizing, but because I don't see many Wester scultps that need to be changed... As for Kaiju... there are SOOO many pieces I love, and some I've been chasing for a long time... And there are also some sculpts that i would just like to see with a different color combo...It's not out of disrespect of Japanese artists. It's for the love of the sculpt, and wanting to own more than just the ones readily available. I know some people think the same way, and with practice I'd like to make things for people, not for profit, or to pay bills, but to put a smile on the owners face.

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