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gatchabert
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 Here he comes, here comes Speed Racer....
http://movies.aol.com/movie/speed-racer-2008/28066/main
Dunno about this one. Might be way too much CG for me, but I'll probably still check it out.
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:15 pm |
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Collin Shots
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That looks cheesier than the batman & robin movie where arnold was mr. freeze, holy christ! I have always been a huge speed racer fan but that is ridiculous.
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:41 pm |
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Locomoco
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Oh, it looks like fun!!! I grew up on Speed Racer... I think the casting looks good (the kid looks like Speed), and I don't think you could handle this any other way than to lay it on thick.
I'm looking forward to it... 
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:51 pm |
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Robert DeCastro
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I thought Speed was Japanese? The cast looks too goofy and Hollywood.  Pass.. I think I'll go buy the whole DVD collection instead.
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:50 pm |
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Locomoco
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Wow... you guys are tough... 
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Robert DeCastro
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Locomoco wrote: Wow... you guys are tough... 
I just think they could have made a better picture if they'd decided to go full CG (ala pixar). They would have been able to better capture the energy and campiness of the original series. In my opinion it just doesn't translate well into live action.
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:58 pm |
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bryce_r
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it looks cartoony and fun but I probably would have preferred an all cgi version.
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:17 pm |
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Dean
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I grew up on Speed Racer too and Kimba and Godzilla etc. but I don't know. Somehow such things don't seem to translate very well via Hollywood. Without knowing more about the film, this might be unfair prejudgment, but the CG in this looks BAD. Really bad. I've long been an advocate of an "in between reality and manga" sort of CG, which is what it looks like they're trying to achieve here, but ... for example the desert dunes in the trailer. What's up with that virtually TRON-era cheesiness? Jeez the least expensive of my "entry level" 3D apps can do better sand dunes, whether you want them to look cartoony or realistic. Maybe I"m being too serious, but on the basis of this trailer, Do Not Want.
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:44 pm |
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Locomoco
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LOL... well, to be fair, film is MUCH more forgiving to CG/Live merging than TV/computer screens. You never know... going in with lowered expectations might be the best way to approach it and perhaps you might be pleasantly surprised. 
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:52 pm |
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gatchabert
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Locomoco wrote: LOL... well, to be fair, film is MUCH more forgiving to CG/Live merging than TV/computer screens. You never know... going in with lowered expectations might be the best way to approach it and perhaps you might be pleasantly surprised. 
Yeah...I think that's the way to go. Lower your expectations and it might work out right. My co-worker was saying "I think they used more CG on John Goodman's face than anything else." I'm still on the fence about gonig to see it.
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:11 pm |
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Dean
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Well said Loco, I defer to a more positive attitude. I recently watched "Superbad" with extremely low expectations, and even though it is intentionally a lowbrow film in lots of ways, right from the opening titles I knew it had something going for it. By the end I thought it was actually one of the best mainstream films of 2007. If I had seen it expecting "art," it might have been disappointing. On the other hand, just last night I watched "Poseidon" with very low expectations, and they were more than met LOL.
Damned earworms. Now I have the themes from "Ultraman" and "Speed Racer" blending in my head over and over and over. They mix well but they're annoying as hell.
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uberboy
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chim chim in the trunk with spritle. looks legit to me.
pops played by jon goodman! awesome. i watch a lot of cartoons (when i get the chance), so i'll put up with whatever graphics/design from 1999 they wanna throw at me in this film.
you know what? i liked the "lost in space" remake too. i mean it wasn't exactly "cinema"....
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:01 pm |
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Rich
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Locomoco wrote: Oh, it looks like fun!!! I grew up on Speed Racer... I think the casting looks good (the kid looks like Speed), and I don't think you could handle this any other way than to lay it on thick. I'm looking forward to it... 
Sorry guys I agree with loco. This looks like great fun !
I like how it has those anime like fast like moving backrounds. Good stuff !
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:19 pm |
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Locomoco
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Taking a second look at the trailer, it looks like there's a "Mach 6"... 
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Dean
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uberboy wrote: you know what? i liked the "lost in space" remake too. i mean it wasn't exactly "cinema"....
Casting Gary Oldman as a re-interpreted Doctor Smith was brilliant, as was the use of the original Bob May for the robot's voice (even if they sort of ruined the robot way too early in the film) but for me what really blew that movie was the whole "absent father" theme with Will. That is SUCH a tired cliché in Hollywood movies. Also I thought it was weird but great how William Hurt took his role as John Robinson soooooo seriously.
It will be very interesting to see how the new Star Trek movie turns out. I'd long since given up on Star Trek movies but this one should either re-invigorate the venerable franchise, or kill kill kill it forever. 
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:58 pm |
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Locomoco
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xoconostle wrote: It will be very interesting to see how the new Star Trek movie turns out. I'd long since given up on Star Trek movies but this one should either re-invigorate the venerable franchise, or kill kill kill it forever. 
"Forever" meaning like 3 years? 
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Dean
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Locomoco is a movie producer in an alternate life. A very, very wealthy movie producer.
Or maybe just a Trekkie. 
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Locomoco
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xoconostle wrote: Locomoco is a movie producer in an alternate life. A very, very wealthy movie producer. Or maybe just a Trekkie. 
psssht... Trek ker... 
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Dean
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Hahaha. Oh yeah, and it's not "sci-fi," ohmygod, it's "SF."
There's a reason I stopped going to science fiction conventions circa 1978. When I went to the SF comic convention (whatever it's called) here last year to pick up the S7 mini-Damnedron, I was reminded all over again when I heard people speaking Klingon. On the other hand, hearing Peter Mayhew mumble a bunch of obscenities about geeky Star Wars fans was soooo wonderful. 
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gatchabert
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Trekker?
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:18 pm |
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Dean
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gatchabert wrote: Trekker?
Starting some time in the mid-to-late 1970s, many Star Trek fans claimed that "Trekkie" was a condescending and insulting term, preferring "Trekker" as the "official" term.
You know, it really really matters.
Similarly, the same sort of thing was going around regarding the term "sci-fi" for Science Fiction. It was regarded as cheapening, whereas the preferred "SF" was promulgated as the "right" way to abbreviate the genre. At this point, nobody really seems to care. Hallelujah.
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mangakaben
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I can't wait for this! Go Speedracer go...straight to DVD in record time. No it looks interesting, john goodman rules!!!
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:10 pm |
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gatchabert
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hahaha...Trekker...Trekkie...I am reminded of this scene with Bill on SNL:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5wed_b6yShc
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:23 pm |
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jojo the dog faced boy
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was that racer x as well.....hmmm......
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| Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:27 pm |
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gatchabert
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oh...and since we're on the subject of SF and what not...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbYczbBlatA&e
when Star Wars goes bad...I think this is a winner for the "WTF was that!!" award.
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