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We have been asked to act as a liaison between the Long Beach Museum of Art and as they put it, the younger generation of artists in an effort to acquire original artwork for their biennial art auction happening in mid-September, 2009. We are very honored to have been asked. So, with that being said, here is what we're looking for...

The Long Beach Museum of Art's 13th art auction is at hand. Phoenix, a support affiliate of the Long Beach Museum of Art, is organizing Art Auction 13, the Museum's biennial auction, scheduled for Sunday, September 20, 2009 at the LBMoA. Art Auction 13 promises to be the most stimulating Museum auction ever and we are encouraging you to participate.

Art Auction 13 is preceded by a two-week exhibition, from September 4th through September 19th, where patrons can preview the works. This will also allow artists to include the exhibition on their resumes.

Phoenix Art Acquisition Committee will be jurying work on the 12th of July, so any work submitted MUST be received no later than the 10th of July. You may submit your work in CD format with hi-resolution pictures of the work or physical photographs or slides of your work. You should also send your CV, Mission Statement and Biography along with your work not to mention work details. You may submit up to 10 pieces in total for consideration.

Submissions are $20 (non-refundable)and DO NOT guarantee inclusion in the exhibit/auction. Remember, this is a juried show and the inclusions are completely up to Phoenix and the LBMoA, NOT US at DDR Projects. Regardless, this is a rare opportunity for you as an artist. Not only are you being handed this opportunity to share your work with some very important people, but the possibility of having your work shown in a museum and to include it on your resume is something a lot of artists don't ever get to do.

Artists that have been chosen are being asked to donate anywhere from 50% to 75% to 100% of the proceeds from the sale of their work to the Museum. It is a charity auction after all. We will NOT be taking anything from the sale of your work. We are acting simply as liaisons here on behalf of the Museum.

Interested parties should contact me for further details at their earliest convenience. Thank you and hope to hear from a lot of you.

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title revised for more hype... but seriously, no takers?

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I think it's the $20 submission fee that turns people away...I know thats what keeps me from doing it


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I think it's the $20 submission fee that turns people away...I know thats what keeps me from doing it


Maybe, but most juried shows have fees associated with them. At least every juried show I have been in contact with...

I'm biased of course, but the potential of actually getting to list a museum show on your resume as well as get your work into important collectors hands far outweighs the $20.

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yeah thats cool...I'm just one of the brokeass artists that can't afford to do that


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yeah thats cool...I'm just one of the brokeass artists that can't afford to do that


Com'on, aren't you one of those dropping $100 on t-shirts in another thread :wink:

Invest in your abilities and maybe you can start making some $$ selling your art. I'm just saying that sometimes it takes a small investment atop of your time and talents.

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true true

I'm broke because I bought a shirt 1 month ago :wink:


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yeah thats cool...I'm just one of the brokeass artists that can't afford to do that


Com'on, aren't you one of those dropping $100 on t-shirts in another thread :wink:

Invest in your abilities and maybe you can start making some $$ selling your art. I'm just saying that sometimes it takes a small investment atop of your time and talents.


The difference though is that if you buy 100 dollar shirt you get to wear it and keep it. Sending 20 dollars could possibly mean you are just throwing 20 dollars away since it doesn't guarantee anything.

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I think it's the $20 submission fee that turns people away...I know thats what keeps me from doing it


Maybe, but most juried shows have fees associated with them. At least every juried show I have been in contact with...

I'm biased of course, but the potential of actually getting to list a museum show on your resume as well as get your work into important collectors hands far outweighs the $20.

Thanks for the input.



For me, besides that fact that I don't have anything to submit, and submission fees its this:

"CV, Mission Statement and Biography along with your work not to mention work details."

I can't even think what a CV is, and I did the whole mission statement and whatnot in College, and to me most of that is a load of hot air- When I would take pictures, my instructors would ask me "What does it mean? What was your thought process when you took this? What are you trying to say with this picture?"

And they would never take "It doesn't mean anything. I thought this would be a cool picture to see. Isn't this thing I took a picture of cool/interesting/whatever?" as an answer. I've never been one of go to a gallery and dissect art and try to give it meaning- I either like it or I don't, and I hate trying to bullsh*t a meaning into art.

And Biography? What does it matter who I am?

Basicaly, my current Mission statement would be:

I paint Monster toys, because I like to paint monster toys and make them really neat looking.

I dunno, I don't mean to sound harsh, its just my opinion on the whole "traditional" art scene and gallery/museum scene- I always felt like an outsider in those situations because I wouldn't discuss at length the deeper meanings behind whatever was on display.

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Does the show include photography?


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I can't even think what a CV is, and I did the whole mission statement and whatnot in College, and to me most of that is a load of hot air- When I would take pictures, my instructors would ask me "What does it mean? What was your thought process when you took this? What are you trying to say with this picture?"


You went to college and you don't know what a CV is? Lord, I thought educashun (intentional for those who read Private Eye :wink: ) in the UK was bad...

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I can't even think what a CV is, and I did the whole mission statement and whatnot in College, and to me most of that is a load of hot air- When I would take pictures, my instructors would ask me "What does it mean? What was your thought process when you took this? What are you trying to say with this picture?"


You went to college and you don't know what a CV is? Lord, I thought educashun (intentional for those who read Private Eye :wink: ) in the UK was bad...


I actually did not encounter the term until well into my working life. It seems to depend on your field (at least here in the States)- in most business contexts, the term 'resume' is used. I have seen CV (short for 'curriculum vitae') used in connection with research-oriented professions.

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I can't even think what a CV is, and I did the whole mission statement and whatnot in College, and to me most of that is a load of hot air- When I would take pictures, my instructors would ask me "What does it mean? What was your thought process when you took this? What are you trying to say with this picture?"


You went to college and you don't know what a CV is? Lord, I thought educashun (intentional for those who read Private Eye :wink: ) in the UK was bad...


I actually did not encounter the term until well into my working life. It seems to depend on your field (at least here in the States)- in most business contexts, the term 'resume' is used. I have seen CV (short for 'curriculum vitae') used in connection with research-oriented professions.


Akum6n- thanks, I did not know that.

Parka- I had forgotten why you were on my ignore list, now I remember- you're an ass.

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Parka- I had forgotten why you were on my ignore list, now I remember- you're an ass.


haha, and to think that you had to click to display my post as well.

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someone actually has parks on ignore....
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The difference though is that if you buy 100 dollar shirt you get to wear it and keep it. Sending 20 dollars could possibly mean you are just throwing 20 dollars away since it doesn't guarantee anything.


I think you're comparing apples and oranges here. The fees involved in most juried shows are either to cover the administration fees for outside companies during the selection process and/or most juried shows are with non-profit galleries or museums. No, there are no guarantees, but because the museum is looking for fresher faces, the odds are in "your" favor.

I'm not going to twist anyone's arm to participate. Again, I'm biased in that I think it's a no-brainer. I think anyone serious about their work would want to jump at the chance to participate. I'm also trying to help my hometown museum as well as build a community here. If you knew what we are up against here you'd understand. lol

Would it help if I offered every entry a t-shirt if they participated, out of my own pocket, b/c I could do that :wink:

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Does the show include photography?


Yes, all mediums. Thanks for asking

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For me, besides that fact that I don't have anything to submit, and submission fees its this:

"CV, Mission Statement and Biography along with your work not to mention work details."

I can't even think what a CV is, and I did the whole mission statement and whatnot in College, and to me most of that is a load of hot air- When I would take pictures, my instructors would ask me "What does it mean? What was your thought process when you took this? What are you trying to say with this picture?"

And they would never take "It doesn't mean anything. I thought this would be a cool picture to see. Isn't this thing I took a picture of cool/interesting/whatever?" as an answer. I've never been one of go to a gallery and dissect art and try to give it meaning- I either like it or I don't, and I hate trying to bullsh*t a meaning into art.

And Biography? What does it matter who I am?

Basicaly, my current Mission statement would be:

I paint Monster toys, because I like to paint monster toys and make them really neat looking.

I dunno, I don't mean to sound harsh, its just my opinion on the whole "traditional" art scene and gallery/museum scene- I always felt like an outsider in those situations because I wouldn't discuss at length the deeper meanings behind whatever was on display.

phil


No, I think they would accept an artist saying it doesn't mean anything. Sometimes it doesn't. I find that legit. No ones asking for you to dissect your work or anyone else's. But I think it would be foolish to dismiss the meaning behind someones art as bullshit. Some art is and may be whereas a lot of it isn't, com'on. At the end of the day a piece of work is either going to do it for you or not, true. As a consumer that is completely legitimate. But on a social level, a historic level I feel it weighs in very meaningful and of the utmost importance.

As far as feeling like an outsider to the "traditional" art scene, I'm not gonna argue that. I respect your opinion and your views on the matter, I really do. My end goal here is to simply try and bring in younger, fresher art to the City of Long Beach and the Museum here. They asked me to get involved and I am. I figured there would be interest on this board and I don't think the submission fee is anything to balk at. Biased, yes. But I think any artist who takes him or herself seriously and wishes to build their resume would jump at the opportunity.

CV = Curriculum Vitae, sorry for not elaborating. Looks like someone beat me to it tho.

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No, I think they would accept an artist saying it doesn't mean anything. Sometimes it doesn't. I find that legit. No ones asking for you to dissect your work or anyone else's. But I think it would be foolish to dismiss the meaning behind someones art as bullshit. Some art is and may be whereas a lot of it isn't, com'on. At the end of the day a piece of work is either going to do it for you or not, true. As a consumer that is completely legitimate. But on a social level, a historic level I feel it weighs in very meaningful and of the utmost importance.


Oh I'm not saying that there isn't meaning in lots of art, or even the majority of art- My comments weren't meant that way- If the artist meant something in his/her art and you want to talk about it, thats 100% fine- I've dicussed art, its was aimed at when people assume there is meaning when there isn't and try to inject their ideas into the art. My issue isn't even with those People assuming there is some deeper meaning or allegory in everything, and almost demanding there be something deeper in a way, and if it turns out there wasn't some deeper message behind it its looked down upon. Art is all opinion, but I think that throughout history we as a society have come to in our "art appreciation" to value pieces with "deeper meaning" more then those that just stand as an aesthetically pleasing image/thing/whatever, and if you do thats fine- I just find it annoying.

My real issue is that if art is about expression and vision and what is pleasing to the senses for no other reason than to be pleasing to the senses the fact that galleries *require* CVs, resumes, mission statements and Biographies on their prospective artists seems ridiculous. All that is superfluous. The art should stand on its own whether it was done by someone with education, or not, or if it has meaning or not.

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As far as feeling like an outsider to the "traditional" art scene, I'm not gonna argue that. I respect your opinion and your views on the matter, I really do. My end goal here is to simply try and bring in younger, fresher art to the City of Long Beach and the Museum here. They asked me to get involved and I am. I figured there would be interest on this board and I don't think the submission fee is anything to balk at. Biased, yes. But I think any artist who takes him or herself seriously and wishes to build their resume would jump at the opportunity.

CV = Curriculum Vitae, sorry for not elaborating. Looks like someone beat me to it tho.



Oh I'm not knocking what you're trying to do, or trying to bring you down, I just wanted to let you know my personal reasons.

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I like how people are complaining about spending $20 to advance their career on a toy board where we buy toys that cost $50 and up.

I also like how someone who views himself as an artist finds it too difficult to complete a bio. I mean, COME ON!

If people are content to paint toys, that's great; but that makes you a hobbyist, not an artist.


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The difference though is that if you buy 100 dollar shirt you get to wear it and keep it. Sending 20 dollars could possibly mean you are just throwing 20 dollars away since it doesn't guarantee anything.


This argument is ridiculous. The same could be said of college, or a doctor paying for their license, or a business owner making repairs to their property. Just because its not a material object doesn't mean its not worth spending the money. T shirts are not an investment.

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Thanks Missy. I couldn't agree more. I was just trying to be gentler. lol

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LOL gentle is not my strong point. :mrgreen:

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My real issue is that if art is about expression and vision and what is pleasing to the senses for no other reason than to be pleasing to the senses the fact that galleries *require* CVs, resumes, mission statements and Biographies on their prospective artists seems ridiculous. All that is superfluous. The art should stand on its own whether it was done by someone with education, or not, or if it has meaning or not.

The art usually does stand on its own. All the paper work is not just for the jury, but when they put up the pieces, sometimes the audience wants to know more about the artist. I personally don't like telling people what school I went to. It sort of puts an image in people's heads like saying, he went to CCA, he went to Art Center, he went to RISD, and then they expect a certain style or quality. The school you went to labels you in the eyes of others.

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My real issue is that if art is about expression and vision and what is pleasing to the senses for no other reason than to be pleasing to the senses the fact that galleries *require* CVs, resumes, mission statements and Biographies on their prospective artists seems ridiculous. All that is superfluous. The art should stand on its own whether it was done by someone with education, or not, or if it has meaning or not.

The art usually does stand on its own. All the paper work is not just for the jury, but when they put up the pieces, sometimes the audience wants to know more about the artist. I personally don't like telling people what school I went to. It sort of puts an image in people's heads like saying, he went to CCA, he went to Art Center, he went to RISD, and then they expect a certain style or quality. The school you went to labels you in the eyes of others.


So, is that why I always got a one line bio from you Bert. lol

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So, is that why I always got a one line bio from you Bert. lol

Yup :D
I think it runs in the family. My sister does the same thing when she has to right a Bio for a performance. She absolutely hates doing it. I'd enter but I just don't have enough pieces right now. :(

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I'm Bert. I like to draw. :)

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