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rhinomilk
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Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:15 pm Posts: 7136 Location: Bay Area
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 what does walder mean?
ok, i though i could figure this out on my own... but i can't.
what does the term walder mean? is it a particular figure? a color-way? something do do with clear vinyl?
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:37 pm |
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Locomoco
Die-Cast
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:13 pm Posts: 8143 Location: San Mateo
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it's a salad that traditionally includes apples, lemon juice, celery, walnuts, and mayonnaise.
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:38 pm |
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JHOTTROD
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Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:14 am Posts: 2902 Location: Nowhere NY
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So then our bro cesar is covered in anchovies,Romaine and a nice vinagrette?? 
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:39 pm |
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Locomoco
Die-Cast
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:13 pm Posts: 8143 Location: San Mateo
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And a toga...
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:42 pm |
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locomoto566
Super Deformed
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:00 pm Posts: 5466 Location: right behind you
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Locomoco wrote: it's a salad that traditionally includes apples, lemon juice, celery, walnuts, and mayonnaise.
You forgot the chicken or turkey, good thing there's a chef on the board to keep you honest 
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:42 pm |
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rhinomilk
Vintage
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:15 pm Posts: 7136 Location: Bay Area
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drop some knowledge bitches!
i'm hungry now
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:44 pm |
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Roger
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Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:41 pm Posts: 4909
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I can't tell you what it means, but I can tell you that the Diaclone bad guys were also called "Waruders."
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:45 pm |
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JHOTTROD
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Look under Muton in the description-its mispelled but proper..
http://cgi.ebay.com/Cyborg-Muton-Androi ... dZViewItem
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:48 pm |
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rhinomilk
Vintage
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:15 pm Posts: 7136 Location: Bay Area
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so does it mean the design takes inspiration from a walder figure?
i don't see anyone saying... damn, i hope they make a walder version. I THINK what i see in common is clear purple, am i wrong?
if it does take inspiration from that, why that? what makes them so special?
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:58 pm |
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JHOTTROD
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Honestly I'm not so sure if it refers to the figure or more the outfit..Muton is the best guy for this one..I was going to take a few pics of my Waldars but my girls got the camera at the lake and I'm SOL-hahaha!!!
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:03 pm |
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Locomoco
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Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:13 pm Posts: 8143 Location: San Mateo
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I'm not super familiar with the history, but I think S7 issue 11 has the full background on them... King Walder was a villain created by Takara to be the nemesis of the Henshin Cyborgs. (I think)... His figure was clear purple, and he had a black crown and chest carapace with silver highlight spray. (I think)...
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:05 pm |
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JHOTTROD
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Heres the site w/all the lowdown!!-It's what i used in conjunction w/mutons and Brian Flynns advice when i first got into cyborgs-Its very informative and i highly recommend copying it to favorites-
http://mykooltoyz.tripod.com/cyborg.html
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:06 pm |
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daughtersfan18
Toy Prince
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:36 pm Posts: 346 Location: Sin City
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rhinomilk wrote: so does it mean the design takes inspiration from a walder figure?
i don't see anyone saying... damn, i hope they make a walder version. I THINK what i see in common is clear purple, am i wrong?
if it does take inspiration from that, why that? what makes them so special?
walder comes in three colors: green, yellow, and purple. the inspiration is from Henshin Cyborgs from the early 70's. Purple is the most common color becasue of Dokuro King. hope that help.

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Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:07 pm |
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Count
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Because they're old Japanese toys that a lot of these new Japanese toymakers grew up with and take inspiration from, like the Secret Base 12" suits come from that kind of toy. The clear purple with the black suit is the reference to the old toy, like the clear purple Walder Skullbrain referenced it as well.
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:07 pm |
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rhinomilk
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Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:15 pm Posts: 7136 Location: Bay Area
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ah. ok, thanks for the explanation folks!
next time i go to Fresh Choice i'll try to make myself a walder!
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:20 pm |
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yiminy
Toy Prince
Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:53 pm Posts: 430
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rhinomilk wrote: so does it mean the design takes inspiration from a walder figure?
i don't see anyone saying... damn, i hope they make a walder version. I THINK what i see in common is clear purple, am i wrong?
if it does take inspiration from that, why that? what makes them so special? The bad guys are always special. If you are clear purple with innards and have a skull head so much the better. Damn -where's my Walder version Kaws companion?
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Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:12 pm |
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datadub
S7 Royalty
Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:23 am Posts: 3599 Location: Tokyo!!!
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Feel free to correct me if I 'm wrong but Walder refers to any character who is an enemy of the Henshin Cyborg crew. the Japanese for Walder is phonetically WA-RU-DA; WA-RU literally means bad or evil. (think Wario!)
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:39 am |
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Shirahama
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Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:45 pm Posts: 2207
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PHTTTTTTTTT!!! 
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:06 am |
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Locomoco
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Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:13 pm Posts: 8143 Location: San Mateo
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Oooooh... I totally spaced on the Wario reference... (those clever Nintendo people)
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:30 am |
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ionz149
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Joined: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:38 pm Posts: 387 Location: 619
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doood! if anyone can help me find any of those vinyl figures of the walder monsters, I will be forever grateful....especially that Dokuro King. Thems is tooo dope.
just found some...any help would still be loved tho.
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:55 am |
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hyperparasite
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Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:09 am Posts: 779 Location: OR
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datadub wrote: Feel free to correct me if I 'm wrong but Walder refers to any character who is an enemy of the Henshin Cyborg crew. the Japanese for Walder is phonetically WA-RU-DA; WA-RU literally means bad or evil. (think Wario!)
I am glad you pointed this out. Often you see it written out with the kanji for evil (悪) as the first portion of the word.
"Walder" is merely a bastardized phonetic approximation of the Japanese name for the character
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:26 am |
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Nostromo
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Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:00 am Posts: 328 Location: Houston, Texas
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Quote: Feel free to correct me if I 'm wrong but Walder refers to any character who is an enemy of the Henshin Cyborg crew. the Japanese for Walder is phonetically WA-RU-DA; WA-RU literally means bad or evil. (think Wario!)
Yes! I was going to mention that very issue as well. So, now I suppose I'll just lend my support toward that as the accepted meaning. Excellent point. ^_^
Also, hyperparasite, I concur.
Dokuro refers to the skull, if I am thinking correctly, so it is the "Skull King". which makes sense looking at the classic toys. A current echo of the purple see-thru skull-head lead villain is found in the cartoon "Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go!", which airs on ToonDisney and has been discussed about on the boards before.
Wario indeed. But even more obivious is his brother, Waluigi, since "warui" is in his name completely. 
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Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:18 am |
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Taro
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I have on order an "obitsu body D" cyborg (clear). I just like how it looks. But how is this different from like King Walder figures? Or is it just what "suits" you put on the bodies that makes them different?
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Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:45 am |
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yiminy
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Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:53 pm Posts: 430
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geo wrote: I have on order an "obitsu body D" cyborg (clear). I just like how it looks. But how is this different from like King Walder figures? Or is it just what "suits" you put on the bodies that makes them different? Well does obitsu body d have long wavy hair or really curly short hair? lol
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Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:30 pm |
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daughtersfan18
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Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:36 pm Posts: 346 Location: Sin City
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geo wrote: I have on order an "obitsu body D" cyborg (clear). I just like how it looks. But how is this different from like King Walder figures? Or is it just what "suits" you put on the bodies that makes them different?
if you got the body im thinking about then its way slimer. the walders i think are the best but are hard to find sometimes. nothing compares the some inwards in a clear purple body.
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Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:50 pm |
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