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rhinomilk
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Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:15 pm Posts: 7136 Location: Bay Area
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Krudler wrote: Well I have a fairly large and expensive collection of KAWS vinyl, imho he began treading water a long time ago and I was unable to enjoy his work as it became stale and boring to me.
If I view his work as pure fluff I can enjoy some of it (this piece for example) because I expect zero substance whereas if I expect art with any depth from KAWS I am continuously disappointed.
If you still don't understand what I'm saying you probably never will. I agree its a cool piece but its not innovative.
i guess i understand a little better... he was once an artist in your eyes before and you were collecting his "art". now he's more "toy designer" a la Kozik (at least i think that's waht you mean)
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:42 pm |
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living dead
Prototype
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:53 pm Posts: 6349 Location: Yokosuka, Japan
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HOLY CRAP!!!!!
This is the first time I'm seeing it. I've heard he wasn't that great from a few people that have seen him, but this looks great to me.
ONE per person 
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:44 pm |
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liquidsky
Vintage
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:54 pm Posts: 7412 Location: Far From the Maddening Crowds
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I am so not into this.
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:51 pm |
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hen
Fresh Meat
Joined: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:03 am Posts: 83 Location: berlin
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as long kaws just design toys and not make copies of kaiju...its ok
but I like the his vader looks like a cool toy.
Thanks for the "companionish" the rsfo board is the best place to improve my poor english 
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:24 pm |
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Krudler
Comment King
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:40 am Posts: 1366
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hen wrote: as long kaws just design toys and not make copies of kaiju...its ok but I like the his vader looks like a cool toy. Thanks for the "companionish" the rsfo board is the best place to improve my poor english 
Sorry; companionish is not an english word really. I just meant it was a toy that looked like a KAWS companion in Darth Vader's armor.
I like the Companions and probably would buy the thing especially since I have more of the Black KAWS colourways.
At one point I did view him as an artist but he never really seemed to expand his range and now he doesn't seem to care at all. It was pointed out in an earlier thread that KAWS was more of a "marketer".
Somehow seeing him in this light allowed me to appreciate some of his work again.
I think Kozik has more range btw and he's willing to take risks.
Biskup manages to make toys yet I consider him a true artist who keeps pushing himself as well. I guess I'm just disappointed that KAWS is so redundant.
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liquidsky
Vintage
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:54 pm Posts: 7412 Location: Far From the Maddening Crowds
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I like the 5YL Companions and the Dissections and own most of them.
Fortunately, this does absolutely nothing for me.
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:45 pm |
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Rich
Die-Cast
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:46 pm Posts: 11806
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Oooooo This would be the one item that will get me back into KAWS !
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:13 pm |
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Pogue
Die-Cast
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:25 am Posts: 8218
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Krudler wrote: Biskup manages to make toys yet I consider him a true artist who keeps pushing himself as well. I guess I'm just disappointed that KAWS is so redundant.
I think this is the best (most useful) comparison. I like Kaws but the toys and clothes have had a lessing effect on his art.
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:21 pm |
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Locomoco
Die-Cast
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:13 pm Posts: 8143 Location: San Mateo
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Frank Kozik
Mini Boss
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:53 pm Posts: 4668
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rocks. all the releases since the Twins and the Cat bank have been excellent.
Kaws is unbeatable.
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:03 pm |
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kontact
Line of Credit
Joined: Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:36 pm Posts: 1524 Location: San Diego
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liquidsky wrote: I am so not into this.
Agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
I just don't see it at all, it looks like someone trying WAY too hard to make it work but it just doesn't. Dissected and KVP > *
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:12 pm |
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bannedindc
S7 Royalty
Joined: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:37 pm Posts: 3435 Location: super 7 country
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I think it easy to say you dont think someone is an artist because hes not what one would consider a "traditional artist"
graffiti, much like punk rock, has its ramones and its fugazis.(he is most definitly a graffiti artist btw people forget that)
some artists were meant to expand and change the idea. some were meant to just do what they know and do best. they dont need to change or expand on anything. classic and timeless.
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:28 pm |
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Frank Kozik
Mini Boss
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:53 pm Posts: 4668
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I'd say most people who critcize Kaws really ,really wish they had thought of it before he did.
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:13 pm |
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meczilla
Addicted
Joined: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:37 pm Posts: 742 Location: Dallas, Texas
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SWOOON! After seeing the full body shots on the Kaws blog, I really dig this.
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:11 pm |
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LamourSupreme
Mini Boss
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:19 pm Posts: 4010 Location: now
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I see KAWS as an icon similar to the Disney icon he based his character on. Either you're a hater or a lover. Nothing new coming out of the Disney camp either just different outfits for Mickey. i'm a fan of both. My question is, how much did Medicom have to pay Lucas to do this? Can they really recoup expenses with this if it's so limited? Smells like a pirated run to me which makes me want it more.
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:18 pm |
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Winu
S7 Royalty
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:49 am Posts: 3578 Location: San Diego, CA
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Why do you have to be over 15 to line up? 
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meary
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Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:40 am Posts: 926 Location: Los Angeles/San Diego
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Frank Kozik wrote: I'd say most people who critcize Kaws really ,really wish they had thought of it before he did.
Thats true for sure. There's a lot of the old "I could do that!".
The way I see it, the strength of the characters that he's imitating is that they don't change, and if he changed his too much it wouldn't be a "brand".
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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:20 pm |
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Winu
S7 Royalty
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:49 am Posts: 3578 Location: San Diego, CA
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Full Body

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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:27 pm |
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Pogue
Die-Cast
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:25 am Posts: 8218
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thank god it is not the body from this guy

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| Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:39 pm |
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il_muffino
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Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:32 pm Posts: 835 Location: San Francisco
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This is the only Kaws toy that has interested me in any way (except for the pushead one, but that's because Pushead made it look cool). I think I like this because it's Vader and it's pretty difficult to make a Vader toy that sucks. There's something wrong with the helmet, though. It just isn't shaped correctly. The flared part doesn't have the proper angle or something. Perhaps this is the only way they could get it to work with those bones sticking out? I'd buy this if it was affordable, so I'll be purchasing this right after hell freezes over. Thanks for posting the pics, though.
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BloodDrinker6969
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Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:13 pm Posts: 12024 Location: Chicago, Like R.Kelly
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LamourSupreme wrote: My question is, how much did Medicom have to pay Lucas to do this? Can they really recoup expenses with this if it's so limited? Smells like a pirated run to me which makes me want it more.
I thought of that too. I think it would HAVE to go through Lucas, Medicom has a big relationship with them and I doubt they'd risk it for a KAWS piece. Medicom makes more money of Star Wars. Surprisingly Lucas can be cool about some stuff like this, I mean look at Robot Chicken.
Love the full body, got to get this crap. I think it'll be even harder than standard KAWS stuff because I'm sure rabid Star Wars fans who have no interest in KAWS (::cough cough:: ME) will want this thing too.
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Rich
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Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:46 pm Posts: 11806
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On his blog it says it was a colab with Lucas Arts.
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| Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:28 am |
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ikkashinju
Comment King
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:08 am Posts: 1184 Location: Escondido because of work...Los Angeles in heart!
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I really want one of these!!!
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Krudler
Comment King
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:40 am Posts: 1366
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Frank Kozik wrote: I'd say most people who critcize Kaws really ,really wish they had thought of it before he did.
Same thing for those who dislike the Labbit though?
Finding KAWS new work tedious isn't aesthetics or boredom or valid criticism but rather jealousy?
When dealing with any negative criticism simply find an excuse to invalidate it.
Jealousy works well here. If someone had just thought of the "Brillo Box" first they'd have Andy Warhol's career. Not likely but whatever.
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Biff
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Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:19 pm Posts: 3442
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Actuallly, If he did a whole series of pop culture icon toys on the same KAWS 'chassis', they would look amazing all lined up in row . (Vader, Astroboy, something Kimpson, etc.)
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