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PastHell DBs going up on at the store (http://www.stolleart.com/store) this Friday at 10 PST. Edition of 10 and they are $120 each. Each one comes with a blind painted mini.

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I cannot imagine buying a deadbeat in any form. These are the most KR-like toys I have seen people getting so excited here for in a long time. Even this thread is a disgrace and should be extinguished. 1 year from now everyone will want to sell these and you will be able to get them for a dollar.


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I cannot imagine buying a deadbeat in any form. These are the most KR-like toys I have seen people getting so excited here for in a long time. Even this thread is a disgrace and should be extinguished. 1 year from now everyone will want to sell these and you will be able to get them for a dollar.


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Just for the sake of discussion, how is this like a KR toy? It's been mentioned here once or twice and I honestly don't understand this comment. There is no sarcasm meant here, I am genuinely asking how this toy is aesthetically different from many of the others on here and aesthetically more similar to KR type toys.

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Good Question!!! ^^^ I dont see KR style here either... It might not tickle every one but it is def not KR..

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PastHell DBs going up on at the store (http://www.stolleart.com/store) this Friday at 10 PST. Edition of 10 and they are $120 each. Each one comes with a blind painted mini.

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Awesome colors Scott, am pretty sure these will sell out quick as usual :lol:

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Just for the sake of discussion, how is this like a KR toy? It's been mentioned here once or twice and I honestly don't understand this comment. There is no sarcasm meant here, I am genuinely asking how this toy is aesthetically different from many of the others on here and aesthetically more similar to KR type toys.


I don't know...For me the thing just seems pretentiously trendy and I feel the same about KR stuff.

As far as paint applications go I don't think they are awful but I always think "Why Vinyl?"...They just don't complement the material the figure is made in.


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Just for the sake of discussion, how is this like a KR toy?


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and besides all of that, it's a beet with a tiny penis wearing a band-aid.


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Im not pro or con Deadbeet, but those pictures mean nothing.

The number one problem with KR's output is that its a gyp, most of their production stuff is shoddy and half assed.

Then whatever other reasons you guys dont like it.

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Just for the sake of discussion, how is this like a KR toy?

and besides all of that, it's a beet with a tiny penis wearing a band-aid.


too funny! i was asking myself why i don't like this thing, and when i spotted the question that animator asked, the first thing that popped into my mind was "bandaid."
overall, it just feels too goofy for my tastes. some of these color applications are quite nice, but these won't be making an appearance on any of my shelves, ever.
looks like the figure will do just fine without me, though, which is fine, as i certainly don't wish for failure for scott just because i don't care for his beets!

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These turned out great! It's almost like the colors shouldn't work... yet they DO work so well!

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The number one problem with KR's output is that its a gyp, most of their production stuff is shoddy and half assed.


Do you know that the use of "a gyp" is racist toward gypsies, and a violation of Skullbrain rules against such remarks? If not, consider this your schooling.

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Not sure if you are being serious or not...but gyp is an actual word

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It is an actual word, but is still a pejorative believed to be derived from racist attitudes towards the Roma people. There are many insults that are technical words (none of which I will repeat here for illustration), but that doesn't necessarily mean they are acceptable.

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Where is Scary Andy when you need him?


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IronPaw wrote:
The number one problem with KR's output is that its a gyp, most of their production stuff is shoddy and half assed.


Do you know that the use of "a gyp" is racist toward gypsies, and a violation of Skullbrain rules against such remarks? If not, consider this your schooling.

Now back to the love and hate.


I know what gyp stands for.

persons of nomadic habit of life, whatever their race or origin, but does not include members of an organised group of travelling showmen, or persons engaged in travelling circuses, travelling together as such

So as far as it being racist, its not. Unless you have some other argument against it thats that.

Against it, not me. Sorry.

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IronPaw wrote:
The number one problem with KR's output is that its a gyp, most of their production stuff is shoddy and half assed.


Do you know that the use of "a gyp" is racist toward gypsies, and a violation of Skullbrain rules against such remarks? If not, consider this your schooling.

Now back to the love and hate.


I know what gyp stands for.

persons of nomadic habit of life, whatever their race or origin, but does not include members of an organised group of travelling showmen, or persons engaged in travelling circuses, travelling together as such

So as far as it being racist, its not. Unless you have some other argument against me, thats that.


You are misinformed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people

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DYBBUKIM wrote:
IronPaw wrote:
The number one problem with KR's output is that its a gyp, most of their production stuff is shoddy and half assed.


Do you know that the use of "a gyp" is racist toward gypsies, and a violation of Skullbrain rules against such remarks? If not, consider this your schooling.

Now back to the love and hate.


I know what gyp stands for.

persons of nomadic habit of life, whatever their race or origin, but does not include members of an organised group of travelling showmen, or persons engaged in travelling circuses, travelling together as such

So as far as it being racist, its not. Unless you have some other argument against me, thats that.


You are misinformed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people


Nope, that is how they are known, but by law they are not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Romani_people#Gypsy_and_Gipsy

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I feel like I might be the one beeting a dead ______, but at least this is more constructive than the typical Beet discussion.

I think you are missing the point here, and I am only drawing this out to clarify for educational purposes, not to be calling anyone out. The difference here is between the term 'gyp' meant to denote a rip-off/bad deal/etc. in relation to an interaction with a "gypsy." In that way, forgetting for a moment the term gypsy, it has a strong negative connotation relating a specific ethnic group. That is why it is not acceptable.

But I will also point out that even in the article you posted, it cleary says that the term "gyspy" is not unanimously accepted especially among the Roma themselves, and as such, I would refrain from using it when trying to be formally polite. It is well understood to be an exonym (applied by other people) and is derived from an incorrect association. In the same way that using colloquial terms for homosexuality or racial groups is generally unacceptable when you are not a member of said group, it is hard for one on the outside to speak towards what is accurate or okay to use.

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I feel like I might be the one beeting a dead ______, but at least this is more constructive than the typical Beet discussion.

I think you are missing the point here, and I am only drawing this out to clarify for educational purposes, not to be calling anyone out. The difference here is between the term 'gyp' meant to denote a rip-off/bad deal/etc. in relation to an interaction with a "gypsy." In that way, forgetting for a moment the term gypsy, it has a strong negative connotation relating a specific ethnic group. That is why it is not acceptable.

But I will also point out that even in the article you posted, it cleary says that the term "gyspy" is not unanimously accepted especially among the Roma themselves, and as such, I would refrain from using it when trying to be formally polite. It is well understood to be an exonym (applied by other people) and is derived from an incorrect association. In the same way that using colloquial terms for homosexuality or racial groups is generally unacceptable when you are not a member of said group, it is hard for one on the outside to speak towards what is accurate or okay to use.



Fair enough. My ex had a Roman/Greek friend with a large family. They never saw it as derogatory or with any bad connotations, and they were from the old country. So from first hand experience, I never saw it as a problem.

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I feel like I might be the one beeting a dead ______, but at least this is more constructive than the typical Beet discussion.

I think you are missing the point here, and I am only drawing this out to clarify for educational purposes, not to be calling anyone out. The difference here is between the term 'gyp' meant to denote a rip-off/bad deal/etc. in relation to an interaction with a "gypsy." In that way, forgetting for a moment the term gypsy, it has a strong negative connotation relating a specific ethnic group. That is why it is not acceptable.

But I will also point out that even in the article you posted, it cleary says that the term "gyspy" is not unanimously accepted especially among the Roma themselves, and as such, I would refrain from using it when trying to be formally polite. It is well understood to be an exonym (applied by other people) and is derived from an incorrect association. In the same way that using colloquial terms for homosexuality or racial groups is generally unacceptable when you are not a member of said group, it is hard for one on the outside to speak towards what is accurate or okay to use.



Fair enough. My ex had a Roman/Greek friend with a large family. They never saw it as derogatory or with any bad connotations, and they were from the old country. So from first hand experience, I never saw it as a problem.


I do, so please dont use it.

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This MUST be leading us all up to some information about the release of the 'Gypsy Deadbeet Edition' ! I see right through the tactics!


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Only you forget there are quite a few people on here that throw around insults based on homosexuality and homoerotic art in a negative light even on header cards. But that's all good because its a boy's club, brah. ;)

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I feel like I might be the one beeting a dead ______, but at least this is more constructive than the typical Beet discussion.

I think you are missing the point here, and I am only drawing this out to clarify for educational purposes, not to be calling anyone out. The difference here is between the term 'gyp' meant to denote a rip-off/bad deal/etc. in relation to an interaction with a "gypsy." In that way, forgetting for a moment the term gypsy, it has a strong negative connotation relating a specific ethnic group. That is why it is not acceptable.

But I will also point out that even in the article you posted, it cleary says that the term "gyspy" is not unanimously accepted especially among the Roma themselves, and as such, I would refrain from using it when trying to be formally polite. It is well understood to be an exonym (applied by other people) and is derived from an incorrect association. In the same way that using colloquial terms for homosexuality or racial groups is generally unacceptable when you are not a member of said group, it is hard for one on the outside to speak towards what is accurate or okay to use.

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