ANNOUNCEMENT:

There will be some planned downtime starting Wednesday, June 15th at 9am EDT. The board will be closed for approximately 12 to 24 hours while we work on migrating to a new forum software. For more information on the move, check out the Board Change Announcements thread.
It is currently Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:42 pm




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
 Thanks (+ bonus Fresh Meat questions) 
Author Message
S7 Royalty
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:25 pm
Posts: 3165
Location: L.A.
Reply with quote
Post 
I wonder what exactly makes collectors get out of western and into kaiju.

This happend to me, I used to be an avid 'urban vinyl' collector. Then, almost abruptly my interest in western fell off. Actually my interest in all toys. :(

Later I began to notice some eastern stuff and started to like it... the rest is history..

_________________
trade//


Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:42 pm
Profile WWW
Die-Cast
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:13 pm
Posts: 8143
Location: San Mateo
Reply with quote
Post 
What's worse is the next step in the collecting evolution... cats...


Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:43 pm
Profile
Prototype
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:53 pm
Posts: 6232
Location: 415
Reply with quote
Post 
Locomoco wrote:
What's worse is the next step in the collecting evolution... cats...


Yeah. I love BlobPuss.

Image


Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:45 pm
Profile
Toy Prince
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:15 am
Posts: 236
Location: Melbourne
Reply with quote
Post 
Thank you all for the great responses. :D

That clears quite a bit up. Interesting that people seem to feel differently about the separation between design and production and the cultural divide.

I was doing some research about PVC production last night and found a company (in Michigan) who claimed to be able to do translucent vinyl but not without a blue or tan tint and it sounded a bit cloudy... and I'm thinkin but i've seen a lot of totally clear stuff...

I hope I don't move to cats for me they are far more toxic than vinyl :lol:

_________________
www.glitchpop.com


Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:20 pm
Profile WWW
Side Dealer
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:19 pm
Posts: 2190
Reply with quote
Post 
Quote:
Japanese........ Western..........hybrid of the two........ it really doesn't matter.

If you like it, you like it.............if you don't, you don't.


Thank you.

_________________
pickleloaf wrote:
explaining to the hot girl in the office your skull headed figure with saggy pants isn't nearly as fun as explaining your tentacled pile of shit with smokestacks


Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:29 pm
Profile WWW
Vintage

Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:54 pm
Posts: 7412
Location: Far From the Maddening Crowds
Reply with quote
Post 
Frank Kozik wrote:
liquidsky wrote:
I wish the cultural divide would remain, but I can't control events.


why? your not japanese. taken to its logical conclusion your desire would mean you yourself would be prohibited from owning any of those toys, since your not Japanese.


Agreed, taken to its logical conclusion, i wouldn't be able to touch anything produced in Japan. And perhaps that would make it even more appealing. Cause it would be out of my reach. People usually desire what they can't have versus what is within their reach.

For the most part, I'm not excited by any east/west fusion stuff that I've seen to date. Yes, I like Biskup's work so I not completely shutdown on this mixing of stuff. American customizers paint up Japanese toys. Whatever. US toy company pairs a release with a Japanese figure. Whatever.

I would also argue that I'm not a complete purist cause I like some of the Japanese mashups: Skullrex comes to mind. Walder Blobpus.

I'm rambling...


Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:19 pm
Profile
Vintage

Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:54 pm
Posts: 7412
Location: Far From the Maddening Crowds
Reply with quote
Post 
I had to google Clayton Bigsby.

Where does the self loathing fit in?
That I loath the direction of this country? hahahaha.


LASH wrote:
Frank Kozik wrote:
liquidsky wrote:
I wish the cultural divide would remain, but I can't control events.


why? your not japanese. taken to its logical conclusion your desire would mean you yourself would be prohibited from owning any of those toys, since your not Japanese.


Two words ....

Self loathing

He is like Clayton Bigsby of kaiju :)

j/k liquid :)


Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:22 pm
Profile
Vintage

Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:54 pm
Posts: 7412
Location: Far From the Maddening Crowds
Reply with quote
Post 
xoconostle wrote:
I can't speak for liquid, but I took his comment to mean that he takes issue with the cross-hybridization currently happening in kaiju ... in other words, he'd prefer that kaiju not be designed by non-Japanese, and that Western influences not unduly adulterate kaiju creations.

Is that roughly correct, liquidsky? Sorry if I made a mess of your meaning. That's how I read it.


There's a wave of US designers designing Kaiju. Whatever. For the most part, not my thing. Can't tell them not to do it obviously, especially if there's a market out there for it.

I would be sad if say KidRobot started designing Smogon figures and hoodies with Smogon prints. It would just dilute the appeal of something completely alien to me.

Adulterate is a great word.


Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:30 pm
Profile
Toy Prince
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:15 am
Posts: 236
Location: Melbourne
Reply with quote
Post 
I see where you're coming from. I have to come clean here. I am designing some figs and I am inspired by a range of things including Kaiju and other Japanese pop-cultural influences. I was interested in how they might be received by members of this board since for the most part this place seems to be populated by knowledgeable and discerning collectors/ producers, basically people who are really into toy design.

While I'm not Japanese I don't feel that means I am not entitled to be inspired by Japanese influences. I don't choose what inspires and influences me it certainly isn't all Japanese. I agree with you to some degree. But overriding that is the impression that only more diversity and creative coolness is what is likely to come out of this cultural cross-pollinisation. As I said I'm not Japanese so my take on the culture is as an outsider and I also bring my own background and influences to my work as do other non-Japanese designers interested in Kaiju/ Kaiju-like work.

The possibility of poor quality design and production entering the market is highly likely but I don't think that is a result of more creatives entering the fray. I think it is a result of popularity. The pattern seems to me to be that as something becomes more popular there is a greater chance of opportunists trying to make a quick buck coming in. This tends to lead to reductions in quality which then unfortunately tends to taint the original thing. I might be wrong but I think this is more what your problem is about Liquidsky.

I totally agree with you that it's horrible to have something you love tainted or adulterated as you said. Hopefully "Western Kaiju" will continue to maintain high quality design and high production values and just bring more ToyJoy 8)

Obviously ultimately it's about personal taste. I just wanted to have a chat about it. Sorry if I've pegged you wrong in any way (just in case :wink: )

_________________
www.glitchpop.com


Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:26 pm
Profile WWW
Post Pimp
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:51 am
Posts: 2981
Location: Seattle
Reply with quote
Post 
But....if it's not Japanese, it's crap.




Or is that Scottish....


Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:53 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by Vjacheslav Trushkin for Free Forums/DivisionCore.