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JHOTTROD
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YAWn.....ZZZZZZ!!!
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:55 am |
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Venemous Duck
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That was a useless response, but considering you didn't bother to actually read the thread and understand what the issue is, I'm not surprised.
Since you apparently fell asleep I'll remind you what the real issue here is: It isn't about not shipping internationally nor about mis-understanding the YJA seller due to translation problems. His auction text says, perfectly clearly and in Enlgish:
"The foreigner cannot participate even if it lives in Japan.'"
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Locomoco
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http://www.Engrish.com... Because the Japanese always get English right.

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Ghostbuster
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Venemous Duck, based on the information we have available to us, you are correct.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:12 am |
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Locomoco
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:21 am |
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JHOTTROD
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I'm not saying anyones wrong..I'm just tired of things turning into an agruement so hence the ZZZZZZ.No more arguement from me..So its all you man!!! 
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:22 am |
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Venemous Duck
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Locomoco, I can find pleny of odd sounding translations too but there's really nothing at all ambiguous about this one. Even if there were, it's supported by the response greg got from Celga when they tried to bid.
In fact in an earlier post you also experienced this and know that Celga had to use an alternate ID to get your bid accepted, so why are you now trying to say this isn't true?
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:26 am |
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Locomoco
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Because I don't know the people selling these items. I have no idea that this is an individual doing this, or that this is merely a setting that has been translated poorly (a la Engrish.com).
Rather than jumping to conclusions and making assumptions, I'm willing to give the benefit of a doubt that this isn't as ominous as you're making it out to be.
Even if it's someone's wish that they don't want to sell to you, then just don't... seems pretty simple to me.
I'm sure glad I live in America where no racism or bigotry or jingoistic views exist...

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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:33 am |
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Venemous Duck
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Quote: I have no idea that this is an individual doing this, or that this is merely a setting that has been translated poorly (a la Engrish.com). You mean besides the fact that the seller added it in the text listing of his auction description, and that Celga specifically said that's what it meant? Quote: I'm sure glad I live in America where no racism or bigotry exists...
So only people who live in countries without any bigotry at all can say that bigotry is a bad thing? I'll bet the bigots of the world love that kind of reasoning.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:40 am |
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Locomoco
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It's simple... believe what you wish. Do not tell everyone that we have to believe what you believe.
Simple?
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:42 am |
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JHOTTROD
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Quote: Celga specifically said that's what it meant?
A "program" translates..I really dont think the peeps at Celga sit there all day and translate for us do you???A program is only as good as its programmer...
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:45 am |
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Venemous Duck
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Never did, just discussing this topic on this discussion forum.
While we're at it, please don't tell others what we can or can't discuss.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:45 am |
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Locomoco
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I never said what you can or cannot discuss... my point is that you're coming to a specific conclusion that you cannot prove definitively, and passing it off as fact.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:51 am |
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Venemous Duck
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JHOTTROD wrote: A "program" translates..I really dont think the peeps at Celga sit there all day and translate for us do you???A program is only as good as its programmer... Are you still on about automated translations!? For god sakes look at the auction and see the English the seller put there so English readers would know to not bid. Quote: ■注意事項■Foreigner prohibition 代行業者(日本名含)全禁止 The foreigner cannot participate even if it lives in Japan.
That's not from any option setting as part of the listing because it's in the seller's text. If you don't understand what "seller's text" means, it's stuff written by the person selling the item. This has nothing to do with any programmatic translation.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:54 am |
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Venemous Duck
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Locomoco wrote: I never said what you can or cannot discuss... my point is that you're coming to a specific conclusion that you cannot prove definitively, and passing it off as fact.
Some people think the earth is flat too.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:56 am |
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JHOTTROD
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Do you know for a fact the seller can speak fluent English or maybe hes using a TRANSLATING PROGRAM to put up his English, and BTW are you one of those types that always has to have the last word and whether you like it or i like it credibility counts for something here..Got a collection or just trolling to give people a hard time and get yourself soem attention??Pantaloon is looking for you if thats the case..Good way to start to w/7 posts of being an asshole!!!
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:57 am |
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Venemous Duck
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JHOTTROD wrote: Do you know for a fact the seller can speak fluent English or maybe hes using a TRANSLATING PROGRAM to put up his English, Maybe the earth is flat too? Regardless no one has yet provided a plausible alternative meaning, and the direct reading is consistent with the original poster's experience. JHOTTROD wrote: and BTW are you one of those types that always has to have the last word That's pretty funny considering that a few posts ago you wrote: "No more arguement from me".  But you're right that I've had enough posts about this one topic. I've said my say. JHOTTROD wrote: and whether you like it or i like it credibility counts for something here..Got a collection or just trolling to give people a hard time and get yourself soem attention??Pantaloon is looking for you if thats the case..Good way to start to w/7 posts of being an asshole!!!
By "credibility" I'm guessing you mean # of posts? I could have lots of posts if I wanted to just quickly respond without really understanding what the issue was, or if I just responded with meaningless stuff like "ZZZZ" ... but then you've already got that covered. 
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:06 am |
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There could have been a translation mistake, but the auction clearly says (paraphrasing), "I will not sell to foreigners, even those living in Japan." It does not say (paraphrasing), "I will not ship internationally." Yahoo Japan Auctions appears to allow sellers to communicate their unwillingness to ship internationally with a standard notification in the auction details. Most YJA auctions have the same message: "海外発送はしません。(Seller will not ship internationally.)." Apparently, this particular seller felt the need to elaborate.
I think this is an interesting subject, and I'm happy that it's been brought to the forum's attention. According to a few of the most knowledgeable members of the forum, there are some people in the Japanese toy industry who do not want foreigners to possess Japanese toys. It sounds like these people represent a small minority within the industry, but nevertheless, they do exist. The author of this thread hopes that this type of resistance to foreigners does not increase over time. I feel the same way.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:08 am |
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JHOTTROD
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Quote: By "credibility" I'm guessing you mean # of posts?
No I mean do you COLLECT anything other than bodies in your basement..Unless you cant read RFSO-This is a collectors site...
BTW no matter how much you try to shove your opinion down my throat It's not going to change a single thing for me, and last time I looked i still lived in AMERICA where It's my right to change my mind about arguing/debating..BTW the earth is round last time i heard.

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Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:17 am |
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Ghostbuster
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Do you think I'm Venemous Duck? If so, sorry to disappoint.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:19 am |
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JHOTTROD
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No Ryan-I just appropriated use of your old avatar to make a point-sorry man!
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Ghostbuster
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I see.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:21 am |
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moriachi
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straightoutta..LOKASH wrote: I find it hard to belive that people in the states wont ship overseas.
One of many:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Secret-Base-Super-7 ... dZViewItem
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Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:05 pm |
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Locomoco
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The bastard...
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bryanarchy
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a lot of american sellers on ebay won't sell to canadians...
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