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mondocoyote
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Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:32 pm Posts: 1227 Location: Chigasaki, Japan
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 Shinto san, Gatchigon origins
The Kaizine lists Shinto San as 'Real Head 12 Generals SERIES - Shintoh san'. Dragon ball and oni references have been talked about, but here's a link to the 12 generals.
http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/12-generals.shtml
So far the paint on these haven't wooed me over, but I find the idea of a set of twelve pretty exciting. Imagine a set of twelve massive figures painted up by PK!
The Gatchigon is listed as being in a diffent series, 'The lord of the beasts series' and is described as 'Lone beast and cub- Gatchigon'. Some connection to Lone Wolf and Cub?
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datadub
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one can definitely see the resemblance
Cyclo Magnon is from the same series as Gatchigon
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Robert DeCastro
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Yup, Very informative. I will look on to my shintos in a whole new light now.
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kidclam
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No more street fighter references. I am delighted.
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mangakaben
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ooooh, 12 unique Rxh figs to protect my collection~  That will definately give me peace of mind
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Locomoco
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kidclam wrote: No more street fighter references. I am delighted.
Why? What's wrong with Street Fighter?
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Parka
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Locomoco wrote: kidclam wrote: No more street fighter references. I am delighted. Why? What's wrong with Street Fighter?
It's too hard for him..
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kidclam
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Parka wrote: Locomoco wrote: kidclam wrote: No more street fighter references. I am delighted. Why? What's wrong with Street Fighter? It's too hard for him..
i love street fighter. waiting for the 3D version to come out. yeah, street fighter gets me too hard.
i always thought the shinto + others are more than just street fighter... didn't know what though but was always hoping for a deeper history. so good to hear his inspirations.
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Dean
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Seems to me that like other RxH figures, Shintosan incorporates inspriation from a lot of sources. I can totally see the Street Fighter and Dragonball and even Pinwheel and Fink.Shit allusions that others have pointed out but really appreciate knowing about the non-pop historical tributaries as well. I like it because at first glance it does look very manga, but the more you consider what's going on in the sculpt, deeper levels of connotation come up. I love the "what is reallly going on here?" mystery, and the sentinal-like presence that the figure has. If I were slightly more mystically inclined, I might even regard having the figures around as a form of magical protection, sort of like how some people have African fetishes or Asian masks in their homes for protection.
He may have a sort of cartoon look, but he also has the august presence of a demigod.
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| Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:29 am |
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kidclam
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xoconostle wrote: Seems to me that like other RxH figures, Shintosan incorporates inspriation from a lot of sources. I can totally see the Street Fighter and Dragonball and even Pinwheel and Fink.Shit allusions that others have pointed out but really appreciate knowing about the non-pop historical tributaries as well. I like it because at first glance it does look very manga, but the more you consider what's going on in the sculpt, deeper levels of connotation come up. I love the "what is reallly going on here?" mystery, and the sentinal-like presence that the figure has. If I were slightly more mystically inclined, I might even regard having the figures around as a form of magical protection, sort of like how some people have African fetishes or Asian masks in their homes for protection. He may have a sort of cartoon look, but he also has the august presence of a demigod.
well said
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dr_tongues_toys
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xoconostle wrote: Seems to me that like other RxH figures, Shintosan incorporates inspriation from a lot of sources. I can totally see the Street Fighter and Dragonball and even Pinwheel and Fink.Shit allusions that others have pointed out but really appreciate knowing about the non-pop historical tributaries as well. I like it because at first glance it does look very manga, but the more you consider what's going on in the sculpt, deeper levels of connotation come up. I love the "what is reallly going on here?" mystery, and the sentinal-like presence that the figure has. If I were slightly more mystically inclined, I might even regard having the figures around as a form of magical protection, sort of like how some people have African fetishes or Asian masks in their homes for protection. He may have a sort of cartoon look, but he also has the august presence of a demigod.
I appreciate the History and the back story but it still doesn't make me like it any more. 
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Dean
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dr_tongues_toys wrote: I appreciate the History and the back story but it still doesn't make me like it any more. 
I love this post.
I know what you mean though. There are plenty of toys and collections out there that I respect and find interesting, but they're not for me.
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| Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:39 am |
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please move this to the SHOW YOUR COLLECTIONS forum!
just kidding... this is a much appreciated and informative post.
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| Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:42 am |
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dr_tongues_toys
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Well I am just typing what I feel baby!!!! Go with it!
Honestly - I love the history behind the toys and how they get made but the Shinto shan is honestly one of the RxH figures I don't really like. That's what makes this hobby interesteing - Obviously I am not a RxH completist! 
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Robert DeCastro
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Well I for one am just glad to see that there may be deeper thinking going on these sculpts than just the obvious manga/anime connections. It gives the toy a more refined air about them 
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bansheebot
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kidclam wrote: waiting for the 3D version to come out. What? Who said SF IV is going to be 3D? Source, please.
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datadub
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but we really want to know - is why is he only half hairy....
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Dean
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datadub wrote: but we really want to know - is why is he only half hairy....
Yeah! That's the main "mystery" I'd referred to.
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mangakaben
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cuz they sent him to the factory before the sculpture was done? 
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Dean
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mangakaben wrote: cuz they sent him to the factory before the sculpture was done? 
Or maybe they sent him to the factory when the moon was only half full?
I could go all Jungian on the interpretation, but it'd be more interesting to know what Mori has to say about it.
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mangakaben
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Mori says: "Cuz I thought it would be cool~" 
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BEYOND
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Hey Guys,
For the Origin of Gatchigon, I can say so little. Mori has explained to me what the story behind this simple yet cool character is.
To explain it easy, he is a Bamboo alien from another dimention in time. the baby represents the little bamboo shoots. Thier world is being messed up at the moment so they came to visit our world to find a new home.
Thats all I can say about him.
with Shintosan, it's still a mystery. But I'll try and get it.
Hiro
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Rich
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Hmmm is Mori vegetarian or vegan ?
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kidclam
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bansheebot wrote: kidclam wrote: waiting for the 3D version to come out. What? Who said SF IV is going to be 3D? Source, please.
What do you think?
http://www.dvhardware.net/article22831.html
They don't say exactly, it's all a secret, but the hint its in the trailer.
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bansheebot
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kidclam wrote: bansheebot wrote: kidclam wrote: waiting for the 3D version to come out. What? Who said SF IV is going to be 3D? Source, please. What do you think? http://www.dvhardware.net/article22831.htmlThey don't say exactly, it's all a secret, but the hint its in the trailer. Ugh -- That does not bode well. If they fuck that up the entire SF community will be thrown into an apocalyptic nerdrage. The wait has been long enough and they have huge shoes to fill.
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