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Comment King
Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:55 pm Posts: 1337 Location: Cleveland Ohio
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 Re: Manufacturing kaiju
Roger wrote: OSHA is exactly why vinyl stuff isn't made in America any more. Too costly to keep up with regulations so the fumes are vented from the facility properly, etc. Meanwhile, that guy in the little shack in Japan isn't even wearing a cloth mask! fuck OSHA I say the rules be damned time for some underground vinyl spinnin' that is the way to be punk about it  almost forgot and yeah OSHA you know what I do in my spare time I stand on the top step of ladders 'cause I'm a rebel 
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rockert
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Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:34 pm Posts: 830 Location: ATX/USA
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fletchthis wrote: It actually makes the prices on stuff seem cheap compared to the amount of time and craft that go into each piece. Bingo. Hand made by people who are not slaves. Awesome video should be titled "Got Soul?" Any "secret base" production vids out there? or too "secret'?
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COOP
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Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 1357 Location: Los Angeles
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Greg Mishka wrote: haha, i think i just realized why Coop doesn't post here anymore
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Kevlo9
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Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:52 pm Posts: 5005 Location: KFHC
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Watching these clips makes you really appreciate the time and skill that goes into making these toys.
Thanks to everyone for sharing!
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jefftallica
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Joined: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:08 am Posts: 947 Location: Pasadena, CA
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What an eye opener. Now I love my Kaiju even more! Thanks for sharing!
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nefasth
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Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:46 pm Posts: 3505 Location: Morgoth
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I want a hour long documentary on just that.
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Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:33 am Posts: 533 Location: LA
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nefasth wrote: I want a hour long documentary on just that. I'd totally watch that. Production stuff fascinates me.
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| Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:59 pm |
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Roger
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Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:41 pm Posts: 4909
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HAHA. My favorite comment so far: "I hope thats not actually PVC." Nah, it's chocolate.
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meary
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Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:40 am Posts: 926 Location: Los Angeles/San Diego
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nefasth wrote: I want a hour long documentary on just that. I've been fantasizing about going to Japan to film the entire process and track down the old guys who did vintage stuff back in the day. Seems like Toypunks 2 will have more of this kind of production footage, can't wait.
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joshuajh
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Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:08 pm Posts: 2665 Location: san francisco
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Waiting... wrote: Roger wrote: OSHA is exactly why vinyl stuff isn't made in America any more. Too costly to keep up with regulations so the fumes are vented from the facility properly, etc. Meanwhile, that guy in the little shack in Japan isn't even wearing a cloth mask! fuck OSHA I say the rules be damned time for some underground vinyl spinnin' that is the way to be punk about it  almost forgot and yeah OSHA you know what I do in my spare time I stand on the top step of ladders 'cause I'm a rebel  i worked briefly in a factory that was not up to OSHA code. worst summer break ever.
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bannedindc
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Joined: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:37 pm Posts: 3435 Location: super 7 country
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joshuajh wrote: Waiting... wrote: Roger wrote: OSHA is exactly why vinyl stuff isn't made in America any more. Too costly to keep up with regulations so the fumes are vented from the facility properly, etc. Meanwhile, that guy in the little shack in Japan isn't even wearing a cloth mask! fuck OSHA I say the rules be damned time for some underground vinyl spinnin' that is the way to be punk about it  almost forgot and yeah OSHA you know what I do in my spare time I stand on the top step of ladders 'cause I'm a rebel  i worked briefly in a factory that was not up to OSHA code. worst summer break ever. Behind the scenes of josh. in the summer of 97 
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joshuajh
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Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:08 pm Posts: 2665 Location: san francisco
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seriously, look how grumpy i look in that photo.
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jojo the dog faced boy
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Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:03 am Posts: 2007 Location: Melting in the desert....
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are you aging backwards? can you 'splain to me how that works?
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prolly
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Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:16 pm Posts: 240 Location: brooklyn ny
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HGH
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Sanjeev
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Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:46 am Posts: 2571 Location: Boston, MA
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Sanjeev wrote: Anyway, it was my understanding that Japanese slush casting still required rotation (since not the whole mold cavity is filled with liquid vinyl). If you jump about 30 minutes into the Marusan video, it clearly shows slow rotational molds...then the excess being drained off. Chinese roto casting (again, just my understanding) uses high-speed rotational molds and only injects a small amount of vinyl (enough to coat the walls), so there's no excess to drain off... Okay...well, I don't know if anyone actually gives a shit, but I got to the bottom of this. Mark explained to me that Shimizu-san actually used the centrifuge in the past just to pull the air bubbles out of the vinyl. The parts were still slush-cast. About 3 years ago, he got a cock diesel vacuum chamber, and it's apparently a lot more efficient. Now, the centrifuge is filled with old molds and boxes! 
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COOP
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Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 1357 Location: Los Angeles
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I would love to have one of those old molds. I remember seeing some in person at Superfestival many years ago.
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Greg Mishka wrote: haha, i think i just realized why Coop doesn't post here anymore
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Roger
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Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:41 pm Posts: 4909
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Go visit Yuji again, Coop. Last time I was there the dining room was about 2/3 full with boxes of molds. I don't think he even knows what's in 90% of them.
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Roger
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Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:41 pm Posts: 4909
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Sanjeev wrote: Mark explained to me that Shimizu-san actually used the centrifuge in the past just to pull the air bubbles out of the vinyl. The parts were still slush-cast. About 3 years ago, he got a cock diesel vacuum chamber, and it's apparently a lot more efficient. Now, the centrifuge is filled with old molds and boxes!  Ah. The vacuum chamber is in the video Mark posted, and it wasn't in the TV show. Now the whole "vacuform" thing I've been told about is starting to make sense. It's all coming together...
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Biff
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Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:19 pm Posts: 3442
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 I heard about the OSHA violations in this factory. Somebody put their eye out.
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Kevlo9
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Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:52 pm Posts: 5005 Location: KFHC
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COOP
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Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 1357 Location: Los Angeles
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Roger wrote: Go visit Yuji again, Coop. Last time I was there the dining room was about 2/3 full with boxes of molds. I don't think he even knows what's in 90% of them. I'm going back to Japan in September on business, but I'll be in Nagano. I'm gonna try to work out a few extra days in Tokyo, though.
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blakewest
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Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:36 am Posts: 1500 Location: Austin, TX
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Sanjeev wrote: Okay...well, I don't know if anyone actually gives a shit, but I got to the bottom of this. Mark explained to me that Shimizu-san actually used the centrifuge in the past just to pull the air bubbles out of the vinyl. The parts were still slush-cast. About 3 years ago, he got a cock diesel vacuum chamber, and it's apparently a lot more efficient. Now, the centrifuge is filled with old molds and boxes!  I give a shit! Thanks for asking Mark about this. I'm still determined to find some video of the molds being made. In the old thread that Stealthtank linked to, there's a mention of the molds being produced through electroplating a wax cast of the figure with bronze. I'd love to see someone start with the clay sculpt and take it through all the stages till that completed mold with the handles is done.
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Roger
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Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:41 pm Posts: 4909
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COOP
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Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 1357 Location: Los Angeles
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Very cool! I was wondering how that was done. Thanks!
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blakewest
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Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:36 am Posts: 1500 Location: Austin, TX
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I like this part Quote: Yuguchi - The parts attached to lost wax cast before pouring molten bronze metal. Put bronze powder on the lost wax cast, and coiled lead line on the Yuguchi. Put it in the tub filled with copper sulfate and add electric current to make the copper stick to the product. Originally, Yuguchi was the word for casting. The original meaning is dissolving iron like water.
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