I am sure this has been seen, but just in case...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY4VZr8O ... ed#at=1635

"Generation OS13 is an explosive insight into the attack on civil liberties occurring in western democracies and how artists, musicians, journalists and authors encourage the peoples right to resist against Banker occupation. "

Good stuff! I've been telling people for years that: keeping you in a repetitive cycle of debt is a means of controlling you. Usually people just shrug me off as crazy. Thats why I work just to support myself and refuse to own any of the so called big items: mortgages, car loans, school loans, etc etc. I am happy and debt free.

that pic is epic, and at lixx I feel you on that one I know tons of people who went to college and got good jobs and are doing worse than me a ged wielding cashier thanks to unfair and predatory interest rates

I find most young college kids really stupid. I love it at work if I use a word that has more than three syllabels and they have to ask me what it means? I just shrug, think what have you been taught? They have zero common sense, and are putting themselves in debt with worthless degrees. What really is sad is most employers expect college degrees to do just about any job it seems. Why? Unless you're specializing in some scientific field, need to go to med school, or are studying to take the BAR, 90% of most jobs anyone with half a brain can figure out? It's all a racket to keep people in debt via student loans and control you. The man's pathetic attempts to make you feel "less the person" if you didn't go to college also. I just laugh at all the dreams being sold to people.

I'll agree with you on that! After having gone through the expected 16 years of schooling I think our entire educational system needs to be overhauled. There hasn't been a day in my working life where I've applied anything learned in college. College should be for specializing in fields that can't be learned on-the-job. High school should be what college currently is.

the worst is when people change majors 2 or 3 times which seems common as hell, yeah the go to college to be a worthwhile human being is crap, in all reality the most important job in society is to build and maintain the infrastructure and buildings which you generally do not go to college to learn and the ones who do(architects) draw pretty pictures that have no basis in reality that all the "uneducated" workers then have to work around because they understand a piece of 6" x 12" ductwork can not physically exist in the same space as a structural support beam dohh

Sorry for the college derail in the thread, but like Waiting is saying: changing major 2 or 3 times is very common. I think a large percentage of those people do it so A) they don't have to face the dismal job market upon graduation B) can continue to milk student loans or C) Just haven't a clue about the real world, want to party till they're 30 by living off of Mom and Dad's dime.

I love this, a major thing going on right now here in Ohio. People rail on toll booth workers and their "cadillac" benefits. There are only 220 full time in the state!

It's ridiculous and has really opened up a rift between groups of middle class people. I had no idea there was so much hate/jealousy for teachers etc until all this crap started. I blame fox news and it's constant blathering. Oh well, the good news is that people are rejecting these ideas in droves and public employees are more unified than ever.

I really wish there was a place to discuss toys and be able to avoid the 24 hour news cycle perpetuated by both the right and the left.

oh, i wish we had kept this discussion to the part of this forum that's specifically for non-toy-related topics instead derailing a... wait, we did.

Yeah, but I can still post my opinion.

Discussion is hardly an apt word for most of the hype or random ranting on either side of a topic with no real other side of opinion on this board, which is only saved for the customs suck/customs don't suck yelling matches.

no one's asking you to not express your opinion. then maybe you could add to the "other side" of this one-sided non-discussion. i agree that a balanced view trumps foolhardy, single perspective zealotry. but to dismiss it as being toy-irrelevant when it's being contained to the non-toy section of the board is just plain rude and unproductive, no?

Sorry, but I completely disagree. I use what I learned in college (Liberal Arts degree) every single day of my life. What are those things? I learned to write well, read well, speak well, and think critically for myself. With my degrees and skills, I can do anything, but I chose to become a teacher. I grew up in poverty in a neighborhood with a very bad reputation. Education was my way out.

not to diminish your accomplishments (awesome to hear about educating yourself out of a bad situation!), but shouldn't lower level schools teach you this before you get to college/university? if high school graduates aren't fully equipped with those skills, something is failing.

Learning to do these things well is a process that gets refined at the university level.

Exactly my point. These aren't things that should be put off until continued voluntary education.
Kaiwi - I'm glad you got something out of college, I just think it should have been offered to you much earlier in life...and that you shouldn't have had to pay $40K - $100K to learn those things.

Not really.
Besides, this board could use some rudeness, as opposed to the random weird sexism and homophobia that seem to crop up all the time now.

I always laugh to myself when I see things about how evil corporations etc are on boards dedicated to the purchase of luxury goods. Or when I see the same +1 attitude in every thread no matter what its about. But then I have no desire to discuss politics with toy people, or toys with politicians.
As for college I agree with NT, pointless for 95% of the participants, and law school does nothing to prepare you for the bar, which does nothing to prepare you to be an attorney.
Education is a scam.

but here you are doing exactly that.

obviously some of us "toy people" do want to talk politics, so let's put your fantastic skills to good use at keeping the annoying noobs at bay. buying toys and wanting to support public servants might seem conflicting and laughable to you, but it's not so silly to others. we can do both. enjoying toys is not limited to the elite. we're not whining about how "evil" corporations are keeping us from playing with toys.

i'll stop feeding the troll now.

I didn't know my toys were 'luxury items"? Silly me. I thought the luxury part of japanese toys consisted of expensive $300-500+ items. Since I never go over $150 or so do I get a pass? Most of mine are around $75 or less. Teasing but....

Anyhow my life is hardly luxurious. Try spending a week in my small apt in this shit pit called Buffalo in the dead of winter. Then going to work to listen to old people moan about their paper being 2 feet from their door and not being able to get it with their "grabber", all the while your boss with no discernible talent breaths down your neck asking if you got the 90 year old to cough up a email address??!

tv news from its inception was created as a servant slave magnet used as a means
of disjointed persuasion to focus society into defined identity groups, of which patterns
of activities could be manipulated to gleen social control. desperation is raw material of
drastic change. control of knowledge is the power of enslavement. important to keep in
mind and tho the vicissitudes of daily life prevent me from predicting what might happen
from one day to the next, every despotic age of the empire ended in a revolt. the world
is changing every single second of every day and so too is history and the true nature
of things.

"are you now or have you ever been? what is the frequency?"

Thank god I finally made it to troll status.

I think my opinion is somewhere in the middle. I think education is not only about learning facts, learning a trade, or learning how to use formulas. I think a lot has to do with formation. Continued formation. Some things can't be taught (or should I say learned) in high school, because your level of maturity, both psychological and physiological, is not yet what it can be to learn everything. Even in college it might not be. Still, yes, most people don't learn all they can. I don't use everything I learned in college in my work, but it's definitely related.
I agree that a lot of things you can learn on the go. But also, because of the formation you're supposed to have, a lot of this things are easier to learn and, obviously, if you didn't have this education in some cases you wouldn't even be considered for a position even if you are going to learn and train in the process.
Apart from law and medicine, I think there are a lot of degrees that still need education. For me they would be all the science related fields, as well as highly specialized 'researchers' (I used the quotes because they can be other things apart of researchers). People with PhDs in arts, cultures, psychology, finance, etc... Although this might sound obvious because they spend over 20 years studying, but I thought it is worth to mention their devotion.

"Some things can't be taught (or should I say learned) in high school, because your level of maturity, both psychological and physiological, is not yet what it can be to learn everything" I think this depends alot on cultural factors, in some countries you could teach subject X to a 3 year old and in other countries you may have to wait until they are 18 and the rolls could be reversed with subject Y.Long story short; learning is good and $50,000 in debt is bad, I hope we've all learned something it just makes me sad that an idiot with a piece of paper can get a better job than a genius with a tool

This is true, but again, I didn't mean knowledge per se, but also other things like responsibility, commitment, criticism, analysis or expression. Yes, this too would probably depend on where you are from but I think you get the idea.