in your opinion? we have some ideas of stuff we want to do, but I want to hear other peoples' recommendations of what's good so we can make up an itinerary.

thanks!

Super7!

p.s. - we like touristy stuff, and don't have that aversion to those things like many travelers seem to, so feel free to recommend things like that as well.

well duh! we already have that one!

Fisherman's Wharf, North Beach (Double Punch a.k.a. Ning is down there) and right next to North Beach is Chinatown.

Super7 is located in Japantown, so there things to see there also, check the hardware store down the street they've got cool shit.

Definitely a walk through the Richmond.

^^Yeah,but dont get confused and go to Richmond,if you do,bring a vest.

Also if you go to union square and the big shopping area, you can take the trolley to Ghiradeli(sp)square and get some chocolate, then wal a bout a half mile to Fishermans warf.

Get the city pass. You can get them at the visitors office in union square or at the fishermans warf. It covers you for a week of unlimited travel on all of the public transportation systems, which has to be one of the better run systems in the country. Plus if you love the cable cars like I do it's awesome to hop on those and whip all over the place.

Plus if you plan to go to the museums is has passes for the SFMoMA and De Young. It costs like 45 a piece and is well worth it.

They also have 3 and 7 day transit only passes.

Oh and Super 7 is a good place to stop if you like that kind of stuff

Ameoba records on Haight Street.

touristy:walk the golden gate bridge, take the boat to alcatraz,go to FT Baker,go to Golden Gate Park, go to Fort Funston and see the hang gliders, walk down Haight Street,go to Yerba Buena Gardens, go to the SFMoma,go to North Beach,go to Pier 39,walk the Embarcadero,go to Union Square,walk around Chinatown,check out the 'hip parts' of the 16th street/Valencia corridor,find The Buddha Bar and have a drink,go to the Zoo,check out the Cliff House,eat at Jims Diner on the cliff,go around Pacific Hieghts and Seacliff to see what 20 million dollar houses look like,drop by the Chinese Embassy on Geary to see Falun Gong/Medical Organ protestors,Go to The Presidio/Palace of Fine Arts,go south to Pacifica and rent horses and ride them on the beach,check out sex clubs like Power Exchange and Mitchell Bros,go to The Shooting Gallery for interesting art. Go to the japan Town Mall on Post.

stores with a RFSO tangent:

Double Punch/Ningyoushi on Powell
Recon on Powell
Super7 on Post
Kidrobot on Haight
Giant Robot off of Haight
Heros Club On Clement
Green Apple Books on Clement
Upper Playground on Lower Haight
Amoeba records on Haight

food:Clement Street, Geary between 14th and 30th avenues,16th street,North Beach,Irving Street.

Upscale trendy clothes and shoes: Hayes Street

Crackheads,Junkies,crime: Western Addition, Inner Mission,Hunters Point,6th street.

OG white junkies and whores:Tenderloin

sleazy dirty horrible porn stores: Folsom between 8th and 3rd.

do you like motorcycles?

Scuderia West on Duboce,Munroe Motors on Valencia.

best burgers in town (and fresh made potato chips) Buffalo Burger on Geary and 17th avenue.

Legion of Honor
Palace of Fine Arts
Twin Peaks
mini donuts at fishermans wharf
musee mechanique
baker beach
super7

this rules, thanks for all the info guys.

Brain Flynn told me a while back "don't sleep on Alcatraz" so I think that's defnitely on the list. as is Fisherman's Wharf.

make sure to go into the japantown mall across from Super7. Theres a really great japanese book and magazine store in there.

Definitely make the trip to Kimono, and Super7 (of course).

is it a Kinokuniya?

City Lights Bookstore - It's where the Beat gen like Kerouac hung out.

dude, don't worry about it, missy is like foaming at the mouth to get there and see it. I'm sure it's one of the first things we will do.

that's exactly what I was going to suggest. There are some serious evil vibrations going on in there. You can feel it!

he's right. i'm 40% excited about toys, 60% excited to dork out on books, get my picture at Jack Kerouac st. Sign, and possibly have a heart attack at the unlikely prospect of running into Lawrence Ferlinghetti or Diane Di Prima.

Don't forget to stop by Vesuvio for a drink...

Go on to Opentable and make some reservations...S.F. has some of the best restaurants in the world.

If you have some time, take a 45 minute drive to Napa and check out the wineries.

neither of us drink, so the bar/wine recommendations do us no good.

On the Alcatraz front, make sure you book at LEAST a few days before you want to head across. The day or day before is a no go. We booked a month out this time round. It is definitely worth doing for sure.

Cool you're geed up for City Lights Missy.

If you head south from SF, to SJ we got the Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum, and Winchester Mystery House! the Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum has a couple of mummies! and a tomb mock up tour! Winchester Mystery House has flashlight tours this time of year!
Links for both bellow!

http://www.egyptianmuseum.org/

http://www.winchestermysteryhouse.com/

oh the winchester mystery house is already on the agenda! thanks!