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ted kopper
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Quote: Making crudely sculpted humanoids limited and expensive while opening the sofubi floodgates to filthy baka gaijin. hmm
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| Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:23 pm |
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I Am The Fourth
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HBCoffin wrote: Why the hate for Grody Shogun? Good question. Ask COOP.  Here is what is baffling me a bit. I'm pretty much exploiting the whole inner-circles of Nag conspiracies and experience, yet some of you are still hung up on the fact that I have owned one to many Nags than you. So for those who think I should be torched, well, I think I already doused myself in gasoline and about to light a match... Let me ask you some questions. How come you never see anyone customize a Nag? Where's the L'amour run? How about Skinner? List goes on... That's because Shigeru feels like he's the only one that should paint them. Why? From the lips of someone that shall remain unnamed, I quote, "Shigeru sees his creations as his "children". The Four-eyes are girls, and the Boryoku and Siamese are boys (yet have assexual bodies). Whenever someone does a custom, he feels like "he/she" should not have been "altered"." Therefore, headers only. Think about that... I think some of your guys questions are to the power-to-be/out of my control and "rank". I mean, I would love to hear the "in-betweeners" of this whole thing. But there are "politics" involved, and well, just ask yourself, "who hasn't replied on this topic? Why aren't they chiming in?" And whatever happened to "that guy" who is no longer on this board? Some of you think I'm more involved with Mishka than I really am. I have no clue what they do, I'm not involved in any of their business practices or whatnot. I think there are more "groupies" that are more into the involved than I am. I'm seriously just a fan that got to do a header. They just liked some of the artwork I did, and gave me the opportunity to do a header. Sometimes days before a deadline. Sometimes I am not paid with the toy in return, which is all I ask for (ie: Phantom Bootleg/Cure Boogie). But I guess I get it, I mean they got a business to run and money to make, so I can't gripe I guess. Or maybe L'amour is too busy and he has no time for headers with all of his releaes and stuff in the works. And if that helps him to become more focused on his craft and art, I'm all for that. I want to see L'amour succeed in the art/galleries than him being stuck to header work and t-shirts. But it is a bit of a bummer sometimes, when everyone is having a blast and parting at comic-cons, and the only way I see my header and toy packaged together is from pics of others. It sucks when I have to be like "hey, can you post some more pictures of that toy?!" Then again, I always go back to something an artist, Uzi Emperado, once said "Just because you made some art for a band's t-shirt or album, doesn't mean you are in the "band." I'm learning the hardway, I guess.
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cyberann
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Ben always has the BEST nagnagnag pics! 
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Paulkaiju
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I Am The Fourth wrote: [ How come you never see anyone customize a Nag? Where's the L'amour run? How about Skinner? List goes on... That's because Shigeru feels like he's the only one that should paint them. Why? From the lips of someone that shall remain unnamed, I quote, "Shigeru sees his creations as his "children". The Four-eyes are girls, and the Boryoku and Siamese are boys (yet have assexual bodies). Whenever someone does a custom, he feels like "he/she" should not have been "altered"." Therefore, headers only. Think about that...

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I Am The Fourth
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Paul, you were the one exception. The one that got away. 
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| Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:07 pm |
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mildew180
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Is the Pus nag still a go?
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I Am The Fourth
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mildew180 wrote: Is the Pus nag still a go? Yeah... about that.... Maybe near the end of 2012. When the world is about to end. 
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Russblue11
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Did Tara paint the CCM nags?
L'amour did a custom, MVH did one, Dlux did 2, pizzatrash(?) did one, and of course frank mysterio I think Coop did some GID nags?
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| Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:21 pm |
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I Am The Fourth
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Tara did not paint those. She just chose the colors. COOP did not paint any of the GID ones. Shigeru personally made that run for his Gallery show/release. MVH/L'amour/Pizzatrash did customs, but they were not part of any of Shigeru's release. Done as personal request or on their own terms/behind closed doors for others, some years before this whole hyped toy blew up to what it is now. Oh, and the words on regards of that D-lux custom? Yeah, he was pissed and that is where that whole "altered" bit came from...
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I Am The Fourth
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Look, I'm not trying to personally attack anyone. And it wasn't my intentions when starting this NagNagNag: Watergate Scandal: Confessions of a Skullbrainer. And for those that understand that, thank you. I just thought, you know what, why not let people see a glimpse behind the curtain and see what's going on behind scenes. Because no one has done so or ever will. This will probably be the most you'll ever hear about this in "public" on the boards. For those that appreciate the knowledge, thanks. As for the others, just be more aware. Ask some former boardies, "friends" or the people in charge themselves. I hope you find the answers you are looking for. Now pardon me while I go finish digging my grave. 
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melek_taus
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Awesome info 4th. I do not have time to read it all now, but I will make time soon.
Looks like all my many many Grody toys are going to keep me Nag free. Oh well. I wouldn't trade a single Grody of mine for a Nag.
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kichigai
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so at nycc last month this guy named Brian walks up to me as i am looking over the macabre forms of the NNN from behind the glass.
i asked if he painted 2 of the dolls in particular as to my eye they looked to be from his hand.
he laughed & gestured for the actual artist to come & discuss what i had said to him.
Brian seemed to take it as a compliment & in return the artist seemed to relish being compared for a similar style.
Brian thanked the artist for it the artist thanked Brian then i thanked them both.
i was so honored by the experience i cherish the memory.
later i saw artist again at the desighner toy awards i said thank you & shook his hand but tickled the inside of his palm before he got a chance to do that to me 1st as he had done to my friend Joe a year before.
the artist beamed a huge smile & laughed like a silly fellow as he walked away into the room. i found it more meaningful that i made him laugh than if i had picked his brain for techniques or nagged him for one of his characters.
thankyou Brian for the memory! thankyou Shig for the laughter!
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cheapo
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Thanks for the good read 4th! I dun personally collect Nag toys but insights like this makes me understand the artist and the toy more.
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m3kcomp
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I Am The Fourth wrote: ...some years before this whole hyped toy blew up to what it is now... So customs were done of these toys, before these toys existed? I DO appreciate this "knowledge" in particular!!! I don't know what exactly is even being discussed in this thread anymore, but I do know that people have been hyping Shig's stuff from the moment his first child was birthed. Let's not rewrite history here...history that took place before April 13, 2010 anyway... for reference: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31287The needle is stuck in the groove.
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zapatoloco
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cyberann wrote: Ben always has the BEST nagnagnag pics!  I love receiving random compliments in the middle of a Nag riot ! Thank you Ana 
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D-Lux
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Just my 2 cents on the one I painted. I didn't do the physical altering. I was just asked to paint it. More so. Fix it. That was about all I could do. If someone handed me a pristine 4 eyes to paint. They would get it shipped directly back. The first one I did, I didn't really know much about the figure. I didn't like it. And at the time I was painting anything I could get my hands on. Wish I still had it. Unpainted... 
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m3kcomp wrote: I Am The Fourth wrote: ...some years before this whole hyped toy blew up to what it is now... So customs were done of these toys, before these toys existed? I DO appreciate this "knowledge" in particular!!! I don't know what exactly is even being discussed in this thread anymore, but I do know that people have been hyping Shig's stuff from the moment his first child was birthed. Let's not rewrite history here...history that took place before April 13, 2010 anyway... for reference: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31287The needle is stuck in the groove. Lmao people were bickering within the first few pages...nice prediction by the way Lorne
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MILTRON
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I love how a "FAN" thinks he created the hype and is responsible for making the toy that someone else made cool!
Sorry, but it's not you that made it that way!
You're on the same boat as everyone else, a wannabe!
So let Shig do what he does and don't take credit for something that's not yours!!!!
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Paulkaiju
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CannibalKaiju
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I like were this is going Paul 
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Dikasaur
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Soooo, is the toy, cool or not really? or is it just hype? But who made it cool? was it the "fans" or was it the maker? Is that why they get dibs(fans) or do you have to do business with him? Do we have to join the lottos or do we join because we want to? Do we like the toy or is it all mental or is it just the hype? Do you think we never win because he's looked at all our collections and seen grody figures in them or just because we weren't lucky enough? Can Dlux win a Nag someday or will he never have another chance?
Don't mind me I'm just confused. But I love this thread, drama all the time.
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I've hated almost every version of this toy and the hype around it but the threads are always my favorite. It is funny to see what grown men will do and say to try to get their hands on a worthless (outside maybe 100 collectors?) piece of plastic, most likely to flip it or trade it in a few weeks.
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I Am The Fourth
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MILTRON wrote: I love how a "FAN" thinks he created the hype and is responsible for making the toy that someone else made cool!
Sorry, but it's not you that made it that way!
You're on the same boat as everyone else, a wannabe!
So let Shig do what he does and don't take credit for something that's not yours!!!!
C.ollect U.gly N.ag T.oys!!!! Are you referring to me? Because that is not at all what I am getting at. I am a fan (and a pawn in other regards), but certainly not responsible for making this toy cool (which it still is). Just a major supporter. Realdeocho just had a question, and I decided to let it all out on what I know. Cliff notes version? I only won 4 lotteries. Shigeru found out I traded a 1yr old toy of his behind the scenes through someone else's picture on Flickr. I was near banned. Shigeru keeps an eye on everything. He refers to his creations as "children". Four-Eyes are his daughters, the OG Genjin and Saimese are his sons. Shigeru does not like Grody Shogun toys. I'm not really involved with Mishka/NagNagNag as much as people think I am. I'm not "in". I just made a few headers, and sometimes without compensation. Shigeru is a cool dude and a great artist. And he has a rhyme and reasoning to his methods.That is all. Realdeocho had a good question to begin with, and I know many of you have had the same thought. Hell, I had it before, but just stayed ignorant. I mean, no one is bringing up the two old unpainted Nagballs in a certain someones collection, and the non-disclosure agreement that was made in that transaction? Anyone want to ask Mishka questions about your conspiracy theories? I would love to hear those and see what they have to say. Or write an E-mail to Shigeru. I can provide that information for you privately. But you know what, maybe there is no need to! If we keep on bringing up the "why you have this?! You are part of the cult! You control everything along with all of "them"!!". Then this cannibalistic cycle will never end. So anyway, I just spilt the beans of all the "information" I know. Whether it helps or not, there it is. Again, now some of you might understand this artist a little bit more than before now, and as for others, this was a nonsensical exploit just like all the other ones in the past this thread generates. Its cool. This is the internet. And I don't like using this saying but, "It is what it is...." All in all. Enjoy what you like, and don't change that because of some uncontrolled outside conspiracies and hype. Either way, lets just all get back to enjoying toys for what they are. Toys.
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zapatoloco
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MILTRON wrote: I love how a "FAN" thinks he created the hype and is responsible for making the toy that someone else made cool!
Sorry, but it's not you that made it that way!
You're on the same boat as everyone else, a wannabe!
So let Shig do what he does and don't take credit for something that's not yours!!!!
C.ollect U.gly N.ag T.oys!!!! Unless we have reached a level of complete personal realization, we are all wannabes in one form or another. Granted. I'm a wannabe master gardener, a wannabe artist, a wannabe dad and a wannabe tattoo scholar. C.U.N.T. ? Obviously But Miltron, nobodys attacked you and yet you barge in all authoritarian to tell us how it is. Well let me tell you how i think it is in the sweetest way possible: No, we will not go back to our corners because we enjoy these discussions. Fans are a crucial element of any successful creation of hype. Like hype, coolness is a group thing. If my mom is the only person who thinks i'm cool i'm pretty much not cool at all. Shigeru is definitely a one man band but he is not engaged in a strictly one way monologue with the people, especially artists, who follow and appreciate his work. It's a dialogue that goes both ways, and sometimes even lowly fans might contribute a twinkle of inspiration. Anyway i don't even think that's the claim Walter was making. Cheer up Miltron, there's a pot of smiles on the other side of the grumpy rainbow. 
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zapatoloco
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I Am The Fourth wrote: ...a nonsensical exploit... Nonsensical exploits = 
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