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Kevlo9
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Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:52 pm Posts: 5005 Location: KFHC
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 Re: A Nag Pa I Root
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zapatoloco
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Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:25 pm Posts: 1102
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The manipulative (?) inclusion of the little NYC puke shark clique ( sam, pyro, ss etc..) is the worst thing that happened to this plastic figurine.
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melek_taus
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Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:48 pm Posts: 4668 Location: Where the brightest angel fell.
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Golden showers all around!! Lol
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zapatoloco
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Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:25 pm Posts: 1102
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 Re: A Nag Pa I Root (Dollie Piss Fight)
The grand master of dollies deigns to grace us with more cheap condescension. 
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melek_taus
Mini Boss
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:48 pm Posts: 4668 Location: Where the brightest angel fell.
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I would think "CUNT Piss Fight" would be more appropriate.
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bunnyboy
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Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:16 am Posts: 1474 Location: germanymey
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melek_taus wrote: Golden showers all around!! Lol Looks more like scheisse porn at this point...
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Russblue11
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Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:03 pm Posts: 2927 Location: Orlando, FL
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kroker
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Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:29 am Posts: 705 Location: LA
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So because he actually put effort into making them they are ART TOYZ? I spent 2 hrs reading this thread, is that art? What a bag of femine hygene products. Your blue face can't deny the fact that you flipped your gifted nags to renowned flipper scum burzum or whatever his name(s) is/are to in turn do the same. Raising the market value so you can get more out the gate. What a greedy belly full of burgers you must have. I'll settle with one store. I've been saying that you were only coming here for $$$ for a while now bc as was pointed out earlier, you only reply to cheerleaders & never have anything to say to anyone else who adresses you directly. I even pm'd you several times a while back + a twitter DM all with no response but every time a pro mishka comment was posted you were quick on the reply, so that then told me what you were all about. $$$$$$$ & cheeseburgers, fuckin' randy. 
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Daimyo
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Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:16 am Posts: 2294 Location: The Banks
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WHY? Why do we keep having the same discussion? When is the last time someone's mind was actually swayed in this thread. There are NAG lovers I respect and NAG haters I respect. If you think NAG's are worth it, then you are right to the only person that matters... you. The same can be said for the opposite. I think everyone can agree that this is one of the highest priced toys in the game, at least for a new toy at retail. So the only real debate is whether or not you would buy one, which is a discussion one has within their own head. Does the hype and pricing hurt the game? I don't think so, I buy toys that I like and can afford. No eBay or YJA NAG sale or retail NAG sale will change what I consider reasonable or affordable. Do some newbies and speculators get suckered in? Isn't that inevitable even with good reasonably priced toys? Grody's are cheap, plentiful and still went through the marketing bubble pop. I get that people are passionate about sofubi toys and I am glad they are. That said can anyone justify two threads and hundreds of pages of the same shit said ad nauseum? Maybe it's just me though, some folks like a good pissing match I suppose.
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kroker
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Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:29 am Posts: 705 Location: LA
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JoeMan
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Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:29 am Posts: 3818 Location: NY
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zapatoloco wrote: The grand master of dollies deigns to grace us with more cheap condescension.  It should be changed to Nagnagnag and be left alone. To me titles should be clear and simple, for easy searching and reference years from now when they've dried up and are on page 170.
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666doll
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Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:28 am Posts: 4010 Location: Long Beach Rock City
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Daimyo wrote: ...There are NAG lovers I respect and NAG haters I respect... I neither love nor hate Nag. I own no Nag. Tell me you respect me D. Say it. Say it 
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audiodifficulties
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Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:51 pm Posts: 3948 Location: a font of negativity
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Are we placing bets if the next round of nags come with a bottle and then you have to feed and change their wet diapers? Cause that's what I assume the new title alludes to.
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peppsee
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Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:33 am Posts: 287 Location: central coast cali
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nagnagnag ragragrag bragbragbrag
art or fart I don't give a shit... I just want one
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:36 am |
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greenslime
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Joined: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:44 am Posts: 441
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audiodifficulties wrote: Are we placing bets if the next round of nags come with a bottle and then you have to feed and change their wet diapers? Cause that's what I assume the new title alludes to. 
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audiodifficulties
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Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:51 pm Posts: 3948 Location: a font of negativity
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If you keep playing with it it will cease to be art!
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TiredChildren
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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:12 pm Posts: 3416 Location: Melbourne, FL
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audiodifficulties wrote: If you keep playing with it it will cease to be art! 
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Greg Mishka
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Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:02 pm Posts: 811 Location: nyc
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kroker wrote: So because he actually put effort into making them they are ART TOYZ? I spent 2 hrs reading this thread, is that art? What a bag of femine hygene products. Your blue face can't deny the fact that you flipped your gifted nags to renowned flipper scum burzum or whatever his name(s) is/are to in turn do the same. Raising the market value so you can get more out the gate. What a greedy belly full of burgers you must have. I'll settle with one store. I've been saying that you were only coming here for $$$ for a while now bc as was pointed out earlier, you only reply to cheerleaders & never have anything to say to anyone else who adresses you directly. I even pm'd you several times a while back + a twitter DM all with no response but every time a pro mishka comment was posted you were quick on the reply, so that then told me what you were all about. $$$$$$$ & cheeseburgers, fuckin' randy.  Ill respond to everyone. The idiots the trolls the cheerleaders everyone. Who the fuck are you again?
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audiodifficulties
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Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:51 pm Posts: 3948 Location: a font of negativity
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I'll never understand business men insulting their customers but you see it over and over again on this board. Let's call it the Circus Punks Phenomenon. Greg Mishka wrote: Ill respond to everyone. The idiots the trolls the cheerleaders everyone. Who the fuck are you again?
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akum6n
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Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:03 am Posts: 6162 Location: Shima
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I invented the piano key necktie. What have you done? Nothing! NOTHINGGGG!!!!
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:36 pm |
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Greg Mishka
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Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:02 pm Posts: 811 Location: nyc
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audiodifficulties wrote: I'll never understand business men insulting their customers but you see it over and over again on this board. Let's call it the Circus Punks Phenomenon. Greg Mishka wrote: Ill respond to everyone. The idiots the trolls the cheerleaders everyone. Who the fuck are you again?
He disses my brand (doesnt even spell it right) and I ask who the fuck he is? how is that insulting him?
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:37 pm |
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Daimyo
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Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:16 am Posts: 2294 Location: The Banks
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666doll wrote: Daimyo wrote: ...There are NAG lovers I respect and NAG haters I respect... I neither love nor hate Nag. I own no Nag. Tell me you respect me D. Say it. Say it  Sure baby, I'll call you in the morning. 
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:48 pm |
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spungee
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Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:13 pm Posts: 271 Location: phoenix, az
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bunnyboy wrote: Greg Mishka wrote: These are art. Sorry. It took Shig almost 2 hours just to paint the eyes on the new release. This is an art form not something that is just mass produced in a factory. Because that's what all other toys on this board are, right? And if anybody else mentions yet AGAIN how it took Shig 2 hrs. just to paint the eyes - as if that somehow made the $850 price tag even remotely plausible, because he surely never gave a shit when he was selling them himself for a fraction of the price - I'm gonna have a fucking aneurysm. Also, following your logic of $$$, Coop must surely be a lesser artist than Johnny Ryan, because those Nags used to sell for a measly 16-20k. And not 200 fucking years ago. Oh, and why not take a minute to address the shit that has finally spilled over into this thread from behind the scenes instead of going on a lenghty diatribe about how dollies are art to justify your artificial inflation of prices? this, this, oh this, bunnyboy. i am not persuaded by the repeated mention of the 2-hour-eyes-paint-job that that qualifies it for " art-toy pricing." seriously, that's not all that long, particularly if you are a perfectionist. it's certainly not a very compelling argument for why the thing costs stupid money.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:49 pm |
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Dean
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Arguments about what constitutes art or not-art are never going to be resolved at Skullbrain or any other internet forum. Anyone who has delved into art theory understands that there is no one universal approach to aesthetics, and thank Godzilla for that! Even within the framework of a single culture, there may be many valid mismatching ways of viewing art and its contexts.
I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion but FWIW Mishka's defense of Nag-as-art was valid and intelligent. Although I can't read minds, my guess is that the heated objections are due to associations that a lot of people have about "art" being rarified, class-associated, gallery or museum-bound and elitist. Or maybe it's that most of us have an allergic reaction to the bulk of what are generally labelled "art toys" these days, being what SB'ers associate with the ChildRobot scene. (Never mind that some heavy duty kaiju collectors also have a lot of "KR" stuff.) Or maybe it's just the escalating prices.
Whatever the case, consider the time-honored tradition of well-crafted artistic dolls in Japan ... many are not meant as "toys" for children at all, but are very expensive collectors' items for adults, often kept stashed away in wooden boxes, only to be brought out for occasional viewing and appreciation. I think there's a case to be made that Shigeru's creations have as much of a connection to that tradition as they do to vinyl kaiju and contemporary sofubi toys, pachi, DIY, licensed, etc. In that regard, "dollies" may be considered as accurate to some as it would be flippant or even critical to others. Value and meaning are often in the eye of the beholder. Don't we all know that? One man's grail Bemon is another's messed-up wax meltdown.
Say what you will about the hype, the scene, the flippers, the lotteries etc. That's another can of worms. But if someone views Nags as being art or artistic toys, I honestly think they'd have stronger arguments in their favor than those who insist that they're only toys, period. Nag toys may not be to my taste but I'd be a fool to assert that there's nothing to them but hype. Hope that makes sense.
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zapatoloco
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Thanks for being calm, kind and making a whole lot of sense.
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