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Re: Open the bag or keep 'em sealed?
What akum6n said; Bagged: Very early stuff I never got around to de-bagging, some unpaints, others that just have special memories and those I haven't got room to display. Everything else: unbagged and free.
Once de-bagged, the bag always gets separated, and the header card becomes a mystery. I wish when I first started collecting camera phones were omnipresent - because lately Ive started taking a photo of the toy in-bag before I open it - just so I can keep track of which header belongs to which toy.
Other than the above exceptions - it has to be out of bag. Imagine looking at a toy collection on shelves entirely bagged - that would be weird.
Interestingly Ive heard that some Japanese collectors like to keep in bag. Ive seen a few pics of collections which bear this out.
akum6n wrote:
While I think these figures are meant to be opened and enjoyed, I do keep some of my collection bagged. I've found some of the early RxH, SB, Blobpus, etc. figures still unopened and in-bag and have a hard time opening these knowing that they might be the last unopened examples still out there (some nearing 10 years old to boot). It's almost better to find them opened/loose so I don't have to think about it. I suspect my itch to photograph and display them will eventually win, but there are a couple that I may never open...
Some of the other ones that I keep bagged are unpainted gift/lottery items. This is mostly to preserve their authenticity and reduce speculation that they are merely stripped production figures.
To some extent, I think it is easier to enjoy JP vintage or new vinyl figures in the bag. The bag is clear and you can generally see the full figure, unlike other boxed toys where MISB may mean never seeing the toy at all (which always struck me as sort of Schrodinger's cat type of quandary- what if you open the box one day and discover that the vintage MISB toy has yellowed horribly or is missing a bunch of parts from the factory?).
Anyway, I normally fall into the open-and-enjoy camp, but the increasing age of the early figures has made me reconsider on a few occasions as well.
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It's a toy forum...That pretty much makes us all losers.
I used to keep the majority my toys sealed. I finished up having a room full of them so I eventually decided to open all the bags and that turned out to be such a great day (and a turning point in my collecting). I understand that one may be inclined to keep them sealed but ultimately I think there is less enjoyment in MIB toys.
I'm sorry not to personally respond to everyone here, but I really enjoy reading all of these posts.
I used to collect the ToyBiz X-Men figures from 1992 to 1995. I had them all sealed, but one day when I was 14 or 15 (too old to "play" with them), I went nuts and opened them all. It was kind of thrilling, but after the dust settled I realized that I crossed the point of no return. They couldn't be displayed like before and lost all value. So while I buy these soft vinyl figures for love of the artists who create them and not a care for the value they might have, I'm kind of haunted by my regret of when I went on the x-men toy opening frenzy.
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Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:37 pm
Thornton
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Re: Open the bag or keep 'em sealed?
I regret opening some of my blistercard packed toys in the past - hence that point of no return... But these are vinyl toys packed in a simple bag with header. I ALWAYS open them! And if you do that carefully, you can always repack them!
I have mixed feelings. Some stuff I just haven't gotten around to unbagging yet, others I remove and play with right away! Although, does anyone know if keeping them bagged might damage them? i.e. with the vinyl interacting with the plastic material of the baggie?
P.S. Found the other parts
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:40 pm
animator
Mr. Freshly Smacked Ass
Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:05 pm Posts: 4918 Location: Hollywood
Re: Open the bag or keep 'em sealed?
Mutonismyfriend wrote:
Other than the above exceptions - it has to be out of bag. Imagine looking at a toy collection on shelves entirely bagged - that would be weird.
I've seen a guy who had a bunch of bagged toys piled into a detolf case
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Re: Open the bag or keep 'em sealed?
Mr. Humphreys wrote:
Hmmm.... but is it logical? ...
I have mixed feelings. Some stuff I just haven't gotten around to unbagging yet, others I remove and play with right away! Although, does anyone know if keeping them bagged might damage them? i.e. with the vinyl interacting with the plastic material of the baggie?
Ha! I love that episode with the Spock doll.
I've thought about that too, since I don't think they necessarily use non-reactive bags. I suspect, however, that the vinyl material itself is much more volatile than the bags, so keeping the toys sealed without air circulation is probably more damaging in the near future. If you notice, some vintage vinyls were actually sold with holes punched out of the plastic bags, probably for this reason.
My Fireman's arm turned brownish from 40+ years sealed!
I've seen a couple of these still in the bag. They were both like that. Either a weird coincidence or a factory paint variation.
BTW quite a few bagged figures with headers aren't air tight, so there is some circulation. But even when stores completely wrap bagged figures in plastic (which is common in Japan), it isn't clear that that situation affects the toys.
I think it's more likely that the plastic itself is breaking down, which is difficult to prevent (in or out of the package) especially with super soft and clear vinyl. (Though it seems that clear vinyl generally (but not always) seems to stays better preserved when kept in its original packaging.)
Then some get really sticky, like the plasticizer in Vintage Star Wars figures (ex: 12" IG-88's accessories).
It's tough to stop the march of time in any case. Keep figures open or sealed as you like. I have a bit of both, but I generally do not open vintage figures. There are so few still out there sealed, so I figure if unsealed is what you're after, focus on getting them loose. Just my POV.
In terms of collecting bagged figures, for vintage and some modern, I think there's something special about having figures in their original state, in the bag with the header still attached, and seeing everything together like that, comparing them to other series + lines, etc. So yeah you can definitely enjoy figures MIB just as much as loose.
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:41 pm
Mr. Humphreys
Side Dealer
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Re: Open the bag or keep 'em sealed?
Oh dear! Then we'd all better listen to Tiny Spock! Ok, I'll have to unbag everything as soon as I can put my house back in order. Although, I think it's only Buta stuff. I've not had any vintage figures come in it's original baggie yet.
Bust 'em out! It's like toy shopping 40 years ago. All of these are relatively easy to find bagged (except, maybe, the edaphasaurus...I just wanted him loose) and do not command much of a premium bagged. I also think the bag and vinyl react to each other. All of the bags have darkened and are brittle. Some of the vinyls are a little tacky to the touch.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:34 pm
ultrakaiju
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Re: Open the bag or keep 'em sealed?
Really nice lot Mark. I was just thinking about these guys earlier today when David revived the orange coloured thread (I always open expecting to see guys like this! ). Shame they don't get more love, but it's almost a blessing, because, as you pointed out, they remain very affordable.
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