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A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG)
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bunnyboy
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kid_miracleman wrote: When I saw Bemon, I absolutely loved it. I didn't know any better that I thought the price was a genuine mistake, like someone put the decimal place in the wrong spot.
$1000 for any vinyl that isn't the size of a 6 year old is insanity to me I'd trade a six-xear-old for a Bemon anytime.
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Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:20 pm |
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sancx33
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Anyone getting email? Still refreshing my inbox.
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Sokko
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Still nothing here, so still hoping. I think this version is really great!
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Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:53 am |
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Spamper
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Rich wrote: Yeah at this point Ive totally lost all interest in collecting NAG3 stuff. Its just to much and all the new designs, as nicely sculpted as they are, arent going anywhere new ( zombie again). LOVE the textures and paints, but its just not for me anymore. I remember getting the Frankenrouge original for what I remeber being $200 or $250.00 which I think is just fine. But at 400.00 just for a head, this has become stupid. Hey Rich, if you talk about the price, it's difficult to say if a piece of vinyl is cheap or expensive from an objective view, it just depends on the market and what people wants. By the way, honestly, I don't think you are in the position of talking about originality, since your last creations look really the same of others Japanese artist's sculpt: the new robo-gorilla = gorilla ju, the troll = boryokugenjin, toxigon = nagball + re-bustron + kaithunder, etc... Even your brand name, as everybody knows, is a mixture of mutant chaos (real head) and soft vinyl hardcore (bemon).
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Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:53 pm |
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Mecha
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Joined: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 2323 Location: Hoth
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no luck here. i'd like to own more nag balls. they are just so out of reach though. 
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Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:56 pm |
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666doll
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bunnyboy wrote: The only thing "punk" about Nags for a while now are Ben's artistic statements concerning the whole debacle; don't make me re-post that video AGAIN. Also completely agree with Bryce - best four toys I bought last year cost me 20,000Yen, shipping included (try making that point to a "normal" person not into Japanese vinyl toys). Best three toys I bought last year all cost me under $100 a pop. I don't care for the Nag design or the fucktards associated with it... none of em. But I must say I do like that new head sculpt zombie-type-thing. But I would never pay what people "think" they are worth. I can literally (and do) buy works of art for less money and I know they aren't going to ass rape me down the line like these figures do. Maybe COOP can chime in
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Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:00 pm |
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ultrakaiju
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Spamper wrote: Hey Rich, if you talk about the price, it's difficult to say if a piece of vinyl is cheap or expensive from an objective view, it just depends on the market and what people wants.
By the way, honestly, I don't think you are in the position of talking about originality, since your last creations look really the same of others Japanese artist's sculpt: the new robo-gorilla = gorilla ju, the troll = boryokugenjin, toxigon = nagball + re-bustron + kaithunder, etc... Even your brand name, as everybody knows, is a mixture of mutant chaos (real head) and soft vinyl hardcore (bemon). Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and generally free to express the same, but I wouldn't say that that is an even close to fair assessment. Forget the whole Nag culture and its respective drama, you can't really attack an artist's work as derivative or unoriginal without more clear examples than that. Rich doesn't need me (or anyone) defending him, but those examples to me seem anything but evident. Any 'mecha' ape is not a variation of the specific HxS Ju figure - as much as I love his work, he cannot claim ownership over creative license of that type of creature; it was around long before him, and if anything these Japanese artists, and their American/foreign counterparts, are all paying hommage to the originals. By extension none is of greater value than any other. I do not see the thread linking the designs you mentioned - as for the name, that is really reaching - but in any vinyl toys of monsters you will be able to see tributes/connections to other toys, that is because the history of kaiju is so storied. You can draw comparison in that same way to any toy you might see on Skullbrain. Anyways, you shared your thoughts and I have done the same. // Now back to your regularly scheduled Nag ridiculousness.
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bryce_r
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ultrakaiju wrote: but in any vinyl toys of monsters you will be able to see tributes/connections to other toys, that is because the history of kaiju is so storied. Not true. Remember this.... No connection or tribute but just one hot mess. 
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ultrakaiju
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Alas, I have tried to forget it. Sure, I guess if you disregard the Marusan connection, then that is the height of creativity. I stand corrected Bryce.  It's really a shame we don't have more excellent customisers on here like that. Oh wait.....
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sancx33
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Who?
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PugPie28
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Yuck!!!
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Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:30 pm Posts: 2010 Location: Made in Oregon
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bryce_r wrote: ultrakaiju wrote: but in any vinyl toys of monsters you will be able to see tributes/connections to other toys, that is because the history of kaiju is so storied. Not true. Remember this.... No connection or tribute but just one hot mess.  Nah that shit was aping Kellog's.
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RudeBeast
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ultrakaiju wrote: Spamper wrote: Hey Rich, if you talk about the price, it's difficult to say if a piece of vinyl is cheap or expensive from an objective view, it just depends on the market and what people wants.
By the way, honestly, I don't think you are in the position of talking about originality, since your last creations look really the same of others Japanese artist's sculpt: the new robo-gorilla = gorilla ju, the troll = boryokugenjin, toxigon = nagball + re-bustron + kaithunder, etc... Even your brand name, as everybody knows, is a mixture of mutant chaos (real head) and soft vinyl hardcore (bemon). Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and generally free to express the same, but I wouldn't say that that is an even close to fair assessment. Forget the whole Nag culture and its respective drama, you can't really attack an artist's work as derivative or unoriginal without more clear examples than that. Rich doesn't need me (or anyone) defending him, but those examples to me seem anything but evident. Any 'mecha' ape is not a variation of the specific HxS Ju figure - as much as I love his work, he cannot claim ownership over creative license of that type of creature; it was around long before him, and if anything these Japanese artists, and their American/foreign counterparts, are all paying hommage to the originals. By extension none is of greater value than any other. I do not see the thread linking the designs you mentioned - as for the name, that is really reaching - but in any vinyl toys of monsters you will be able to see tributes/connections to other toys, that is because the history of kaiju is so storied. You can draw comparison in that same way to any toy you might see on Skullbrain. Anyways, you shared your thoughts and I have done the same. Word.
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eckotyper
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mutantshark wrote: Someone correct me if im wrong but werent nagballs at nycc 2rs ago $400? Ive even heard $500 before. They were one offs i think and this is a run but its consistent with other nag pricing: his online runs cost the same as the one offs sold in the US at events ($850 vs 85,000). Only difference is the exchange rate which makes this nagball only $330 compared to $300-500 at US events. I feel like this has been the pricing for easily 3 years? Yes, its absurd but not new. Can anyone chime in on the nagball released at hyperstoic/nycc last year? nagballs raffled at Mishka were $400 i believe, and 5 of each? 2 colorways... The nagball at Hyperstoic was up there in price too, to me it was worth it. you have to see that in person to appreciate it. Im sad i didnt keep up on this, I would of liked a shot at this one, it looked nice to me.
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BOObotcher
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badteethcomics wrote: Safe to post this now.. Was wondering was a another release by Tara would look like, this one turned out really cool  3 have touched down on the West Coast (IG told me) Was it a run of 10?
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:08 pm |
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bryce_r
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I liked when he took weeks to paint eyes. Those dots? Meh. He's definitely let production standards slide.
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evom
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^^ did tara paint these?
looks way different than shigs usual style.
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bunnyboy
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if McPherson painted the eyes & teeth.
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badteethcomics
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There were photos of the new head/body sculpts in black vinyl on both ****** and ******'s instagrams yesterday and they have all disappeared.. CONSPIRACY!! Jet fuel can't melt new nag sculpts
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PugPie28
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badteethcomics wrote: There were photos of the new head/body sculpts in black vinyl on both Coop and Johnny Ryan's instagrams yesterday and they have all disappeared.. CONSPIRACY!! Jet fuel can't melt new nag sculpts I saw that too.. It looked like a more detailed revamped OG Boryoku Genjin. I honestly didn't find it that appealing at first glimpse but eh, we'll see. Also Johnnys wife posted a pic and was gone the next day.. Maybe, they weren't supposed to post pics yet?
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:22 am |
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Yuck!!!
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Ahhh, must be hard to have an exclusive release no one can score and not be able to IG in everyone's face about it.
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JoeMan
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I think Coop also mentioned in his photo that the new figure was larger than the original.
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:44 am |
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mutantshark
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they get gifts all the time. And yes coop said about 30% larger
Oddly enough mishka tokyos pic is still on IG (also on pg 202 of this thread)
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:46 am |
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PugPie28
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^^ It was different from the zombie head type, if that's the one you're reffering to.
Although the lips definitely appeared to be 30% larger!
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:58 am |
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zapatoloco
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maxaltoman wrote: The og nags still look best after all these years. Agreed, I still think Mr. Shigeru is a freaking Genius, but i am a litlle bit puzzled as to why he seems to have gotten stuck going around in circles. A case of early, unmatchable epiphany ? bunnyboy wrote: The only thing "punk" about Nags for a while now are Ben's artistic statements concerning the whole debacle  (smashes bottle on head, vomits. burns his Nags) sancx33 wrote: The price is high maybe due to collaboration release. So both artist getting to share for the price. 666doll wrote: I don't care for the Nag design or the fucktards associated with it... none of em. I still like you, regardless ...
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