A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio

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nothing getting old here for me...

how about that PK version siamese face??

super schweet!!!

particularly loving the ultra creepy eyes!!

 

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I keep coming back to check these photos over and over and over and .........

Paul Kaijus version is the best painted version but this unpainted bubblegum pink release is rocking my world today !



Its been a long time since I have been excited about an unpainted release. And I'm starting to like the original head better. Both are nice in their own way but the original head is my choice today.

 

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The OG primitive violence head is my favorite too. Loving the pink unpainted as well. Both teh PK and the secret version rule as well.

 

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I love this thread. My hats off to NNN for a brilliantly executed coup.

 

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That pretty much covers 'em all . . . glad to see you're being as selective as ever C!

 

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So does that mean you want to meet up in Tokyo?

Ill be there Decemeber 11-14th

Name time and place.

 

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wow, now it's an attack on Mishka? Fuck this, I say lock and dump this hype fest circle jerk.

 

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I'm sleepy and need a nap. Wake me when the hype blows over.

 

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so will there be another version released around this time?..the mishka vs. alice ver.??

 

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But what I cleverly covered up was my vote for the OG head sculpt.

 

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Locking this thread until someone unlocks it.

 

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thread unlocked.


please play nice

 

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Just a FYI for all the good folks here:

The above is NOT TRUE.
For the record, I can only repeat that I have
NO creative input into this figure WHATSOEVER.
I am just reporting what I see,
and occasionally expressing an opinion.

That is all. Thank you.

 

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MISHKA, can you give us an update as to when the mishka version is going to ship?

 

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Awesome! Thanks Pogue!

Found this:

Hadn't seen it without the big SOLD OUT! taunting me... Now it's taunting me even more!

 

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blue eyeliner + blue nostrils = AWESOME.

 

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PM me for tracking info

 

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Aug 06, 2009 seems so long ago...

 

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yep

 

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"Alice" is correct. He didnt make the "I Hate Mishka" Sticker, Nag Nag Nag dude did.

Stu did however turn the cyrllic logo to Manko, which litterally means pussy or cunt in Japanese. Although I thought it was funny, I do not appreciate being called a "Pussy" by someone trolling on the internet, and given the oppurtunity man to man, I would let Stu call me a pussy to my face. I wasn't trying to threaten him or cause conflict, just dont like to be called names. Again, I do however have a sense of humor, and though the mishka to manko was actually kind of funny.

According to Nag Nag Nag. He now hates mishka for a few reasons:

1) He had to pay a 2500 yen wire transfer fee when I transferred the money to his bank account. Anyone that does business, albeit international, knows this is pretty standard fee. I would of sent him the friggen $25 if I knew it would make him hate us.

2)I was late on sending him his header cards. When we met in Japan, he really wanted our version to have a similar style to the Bootleg header. He really liked the style, and wanted to replicate that. Joel and I spent about a week working on the new header, which I think came out pretty kick ass. Nag thought so as well. He wanted to add some text and we were fine with that. He then asked if he could use the header card for future releases. We told him this was OK, but any release he used that header for we asked that we receive at least (1) figure for release and basically a payment for use of the art. We thought this was more than fair. He somehow was very offended by this,and just asked for 3-4 pcs for his personal collection. He originally asked for 10. All of this back and forth delayed us getting him the header cards.

The other issue was that we wanted HIM to print the cards in Japan and send us the prepackaged figures. Again, he was mortified that we were asking him to print the header cards. Not only do we like the printing out in Japan, we like the idea of the entire product being made in Japan. Anyone who knows anything abou this shit, is that Japan just has thier little minutias with priinting and quality of product that you cannot really get in the US.

He claims he hates us becuase he never got his cards. Yes, I was a bit late in sending them but I was never going to burn him. I didnt get to send them before the thanksgiving holiday, and I just sent them this week. It took about 10 days from love to hate. since my last email from him was Nov. 19th, and during thanksgiving break I see the I HATE MISHKA sticker.

3) In Japan I promised him the 1st release of the Bootleg figure. Before Japan I hit up Shanghai. Eddi from Adfunture had told me he had a few figures that he had held back. I asked him if I could have a few before Japan, because I knew a few people that would love them as gifts. Nag Nag Nag had expressed interest in the bootleg, and I really wanted to get him one to present to him during our meeting. When I met Eddi, he only had a fe of the V colorway. Which was way more rare than the 1st release. I gave him the V colorway during our meeting and I promised him that I would get him the first colorway. I am still waiting to get a few from Eddi in Shanghai. During this time, Lamour, said he would give up his one extra to send to NNN since I had promised him and I had no clue when I would get it from Eddi. Joel JUST dropped off the bootleg at the office today. So I have it ready to send , I am just not sure what to do now since he made that sticker, it really bums me out that someone would be so unprofessional. Its a tough conflict since I did promise him, and I am a professional.

4) There also seems to be an issue with the price that we charged for the Caveman. I am going to break it down for you. Apart from the fact that WE took NNN out to dinner in Japan is sort of a mute point, but that is how we do. We dont go to Japan as the cocky foreigners trying to take advantage of anyone. We were offered 10 figures. Our friend Takashi who acted as translator for us, really wanted one as payment for translation. NNN would not make more than 10. We said fine. We also agreed that we would split the cost of the figure. So we received 9 figures. our friend 1. We paid a total of $1045.20 for 10 figures. That is roughly $104.52 per figure. We then spent $40 on printing. That adds $4 to the figure. $108.52. $10 for the bags. $109.52. Lamour is my boy, but he doesnt work for me for free. I paid him $150 on his work for the header. That adds another $15 per figure. So our cost of the figure is $124.52. 1 went to Takashi, 1 stayed in our collection, 1 went to Lamour. That makes a total of 7 to sell. I set the price at $244.44 which was a little less than double the cost of the figure. That equals $1711.08. So we made approx. $466. I dont think that is a lot of money for the work we put into it, and we are doing this for the love of the figure and the art to make a ton of money. Anyone else who is in this business, realizes you cant make a ton of money off of this, especially if you are not making the figures yourseleves. Even then you arent seeing a profit for a while. I did hear that last night that because of our price, Paul Kaiju was somehow forced to cap his figure at $200. I am sorry that this happened, hopefully my breakdown can explain our rationale.

Anyone that knows me or Lamour knows how into this toy we were the first time we saw it. We think its awesome and we still feel honored that we had the privledge to work on this release. We never intended to get anyone to "hate" us or start any conflict.

I felt I needed to air this out, since it has been bothering me since I saw the post over Thanksgiving break.

 

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wow ..the NNN guy seems pretty adhesive medical strips
I like his toy,but I wont lose any adhesive medical strips never having one.

seems like you guys went a little beyond the call of duty with adhesive medical strips

gotta say you guys are troopers..and I dont think I'd send him adhesive medical strips with his attitude ..just me

 

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This right here. This is a small enough hobby where anyone who wants to accomplish anything really can't afford to spread anything other than gracious good will. He can be a cock in some other hobby.

 

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Some of the stuff could be cultural differences...so I don't think everyone can jump to conclusions.

It's just a cool toy and it's great to see it finally released.

And I thought the whole "I hate Miskha" sticker was similar to the "Fuck the USA". Just something supposed to be funny or ironic. Sort of like Primus sucks. It didn't strike me as something real.

 

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I was just about to type the same thing...

 

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I keep finding myself reading this thread. And every time it feels as thou I'm reading about an alien abduction, Or some other account of weird shit going down. It's all just confusing.


And "culturally". By my 'good ole boy' standards that's real douchy of nnn.