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  1. The Moog

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    Yep, Invisibles is good and Morrison is great but Moore's run on Swamp Thing is the stuff of legend. I don't exaggerate when i say its my favourite comics run of all time. Certainly not Moore's best work but it is very, very good. I still have all the Titan B/W TPB's and dip into them periodically.

    Walt Flanagan of the TV show 'Comic Book Men' and the podcast 'TESD' once said in an interview that Moore's Swamp Thing was his favourite comics run as well. It surprised me at the time, because i always assumed he was more of a Spiderman/Superman type.
     
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    Man, you are so lucky to have those black/white Titan books.
    I only have 1, but seriously need to quit playing around and get the rest.

    What am I even doing with my life?
     
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    ^^^ Although I was hoping for a one-and-done Moore & Co. omni edition after the Bronze Age collection that DC put out, we could probably do worse than the 3 volume Absolute editions that are on the slate. That said, the presale enticement for vol.1 mentions "brand new coloring," which is always a cause for concern. If they're simply redoing/restoring Tatjana Wood's ace work from the '80s, maybe making a correction here and there for clarity, that's one thing, but if they're going the digital fades and 'realistic' palette route, I'm definitely going to keep my money in pocket.

    Have to mention that it kind of bums me out seeing Space Riders and Stagnant Things in the same chat boxes, but I realize that no 1-to-1 was intended. I'm fully in the camp that had a most difficult time working my way through the kiddie show this year, and had to break up the finale into doses of a few minutes a day in order choke through it. Not a hate watch, per se, but I'm unclear on why I didn't just stop having a look after the first couple of episodes. Ms. Hawke-Thurman's babyfat, perhaps? Hard to say.

    Pleased to note that I have absolutely no idea what Yub Nub is, and I hope to keep it that way!

    What else? I wish that McCay and Segar were a part of my youngest years, but I certainly made up for that starting in my late teens.

    This pre-sailor collection from the utterly peerless folks at Sunday Press has been on my shortlist all year...
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    ...and no one that knows needs to be reminded of their treatment of Mr, McCay's Sunday best - pure love and luxury.

    @nefasth - Funny that you mentioned All Time Comics, as I was just recommending it to a friend a week or so ago! Rather than give it the hard sell, though, I linked them to this total evisceration instead. Had no idea of the existence of that Schwauren and Friends jam book that you mentioned... Looks GREAT, but it also looks like I'll have to wait and pray for a 'Merican edition to come to be. Dangs. Drnaso is pretty fantastic, I agree. Beverly belongs on every shelf.

    @hellscrape - Dead Orbit certainly benefits from a slow and scrupulous study, much like the pace of a good suspense film, but I certainly wouldn't count it among the best of his works. Very well told, though, with line work that's so good it almost makes me angry! Although I was already well familiar with Rugg, and Rugg & Maruca through Afrodisiac, Street Angel totally passed me by until you mentioned the series to me a while back. I've since bargain-hunted some of the wonderfully huge hardbacks and am totally in love. The trade sounds appealing (and considerably less expensive, ha), but I'll probably stick with those oversized folios. My life as a size queen continues.
     
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    They were my first proper introduction to Graphic Novels / TPB's, around about the same time i bought the collected Watchmen. I bought them as they were published and every new edition was a joy. Before that i'd been buying the Titan 2000ad reprints and Underground Comix, amongst a load of European stuff. Around the same time i bought Neil Gaiman's 'Black Orchid' (in three parts) and i never looked back after that, all those books set me on the right path. If you haven't read Black Orchid i would recommend it highly. Speaking of Swamp Thing, he has a cameo in Black Orchid. As well as Poison Ivy and a few others from the DC universe. It was drawn by Dave McKean, who went onto do the famous 'Arkham Asylum'.

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    My dude, this is one of the greatest graphic novels in existence. The collected edition was gifted to me by a semi blind junkie I used to hang with as a teen. The ending is just fucking perfect.
     
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    Well, it certainly set me off on the right path that is for sure. The artwork was so incredibly striking at the time, i'd never seen anything like it before.
     
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    I’m delving into the pages of Punisher Max again. As Rob Halford sings “I might as well begin to put some action in my life”.

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    While i'm at it i will recommend some more fav's from back in the day. If you get a chance check out these collections of lesser known Alan Moore.

    D.R. and Quinch, Tharg's Future Shocks and Time Twisters.

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    This all looks like hidden treasure thank you. A question I have is - do you find Top 10 to be worth admission? (I’m not a massive straightforward superhero fan but there are exceptions to the rule)
     
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    Yes there are and Top 10 certainly is. I'm not a blanket fan of all Moore's work but I really liked Top 10.
     
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    At this point I'll take Moonshadow or Stray Toasters over Black Orchid any day, maybe even Havoc & Wolverine, but it's not really McKean's fault - see, by '88 I was already well primed not to get too carried away by Dave's work, what with Jon J. Muth's first epic and a few years of Sienkiewicz covers under my belt - healthy dollops of the older kid's copies of Heavy Metal on top, too - but the real bridge between me and the beloved painter and collage artist is far more petty - guilt by association with several generations of Sandman fans. Just figured that out yesterday, actually, so it's too funny to have opened up the thread to find your quality spotlight post tonight, joe!

    Anyway, I'll get over it. Found my old copies of the run a couple of years ago and I keep picking them up and putting them back down again.
     
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    Booooooooooooooooooo
     
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    Yeah, i didn't get into Metal Hurlant until later, basically when i discovered Moebius and Druillet. It was indeed an eye opener, they sometimes had it top shelf in my local newsagent next to Men Only and Mayfair. I only found out recently they have been republishing a lot of Druillet in new English hardbacks, i will have to order those!

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    The first step in any resolution is identifying the root of the problem. Now that I've sussed out and owned my passive avoidance of Mr. Gaiman and his collaborators I can start doing the work to get past my learned association and instinctive aversion to the various materials with Mall Goths United.® In my day, the MGU was made up of disorganized factions that rarely had above one to three members in their ranks, goth spotting being a viable game for their scarcity, but the original draft of the Marching Willows Standardization Papers in '96, and the injection of considerable funds from Hot Topic and their myriad shadow organizations, served to quite successfully homogenize certain aspects of dress, baseline purchases of compact discs and cassingles, as well as the general skeleton of the required reading list. Having observed all of this over an extended period of time, and I'm not proud to admit this, any number of cultural artifacts that I once held dear were coated in an invisible sheen that led to a quiet and mostly unconscious disinterest in further revisitation.

    Collected, consumed and enjoyed the periodicals under the microscope as they were being issued, and the lot of them remain in my home to this day, so a proper reassessment is only a matter of time. How does October sound? ;)

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    I can understand not wanting to be guilty by association when it comes to certain things and their pertaining audiences. My formative experiences were much difference to yours however, as Down Under I normally came across Gaiman at flea markets or had it gifted to me by the scourge of society living in housing commission areas. In my head canon I likened his works of fiction to sit alongside more so Clive Barker (Weaveworld, Great and Secret Show) than Anne Rice. Now that we live in a time where all of this has become irrelevant:

    This sounds good. Give the man another chance. I only ever saw worlds of fantasy, not eyeliner and Bauhaus records.
     
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    They all made valid points in those reviews! :lol:
    Still they are very fun and entertaining comics. Reminds me of Mr Ferraille.

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    And They Grew Up to be a Famous Cartoonist... o' the Day:
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    Batman and Shade the Changing Man, ala Fiffe.
     
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    I recently read this tragic tale and fell in love with it. In its pages we find an old Nick Fury reflecting on a life - one in which he fought wars he didn't believe in and lost those close to him along the way. For the unintiated, there is no S.H.I.E.L.D and there is no Marvel superheroes alongside Fury. The story is rooted in reality. A bonus is that I learned a few things too, time to brush up on my history a bit more.
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    An undercover photojournalist and an occult detective walk into a bar...
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    Doodlery by Werther Dell’Edera, an Italian to watch.
     
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    One for the old folks:


    NEW MUTANTS: WAR CHILDREN
    Written by Chris Claremont, drawn by Bill Sienkiewicz; kicking off Sept. 25

    There are many, many X-Men fans out there who credit their love of the characters to one specific series: New Mutants as written by the legendary Chris Claremont. And among those, there are many who will tell you that the absolute peak of the series is when Bill Sienkiewicz drew it.

    Both Claremont and Sienkiewicz are returning to the New Mutants this fall, for a story set in the era they first collaborated on the series, with the characters of Magik, Wolfsbane, Cannonball, Cypher, Mirage, Karma, and Sunspot.

    Not every creative team can recapture magic more than 30 years old, but regardless, this is a series to watch. —SP
    If only we could pick up a wee box of Nerds and a roll of caps for our plastic six-shooter at the same time.

    And for children of all ages:


    FANTASTIC FOUR: GRAND DESIGN
    Written and drawn by Tom Scioli; in bookstores Dec. 31 and comic shops on Jan. 1, 2020

    Following on the heels of Ed Piskor’s incredibly ambitious, wildly successful X-Men: Grand Design trilogy, which condensed decades of the most complicated continuity, bar none, into a single unified narrative, Tom Scioli (Gødland, Transformers vs. GI Joe) does the same for Marvel’s First Family. While this comes out in two issues in October and November, this collected edition is more convenient. Plus, it comes with Stan Lee & Jack Kirby’s Fantastic Four #1, so you’ll have no excuse not to read what’s possibly the best first issue in comics history. —TS
    Could I be more hyped? No, I could not.
     
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    Imaginary Daily Funnies... o' the Day:
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    Would you believe me if I told you that Transformers vs G.I. Joe is possibly the greatest comicbook ever written? I probably wouldn't have believed you if you'd told me that. Let me tell you, though...

    Transformers vs. G.I. Joe is possibly the greatest comicbook ever written!

    Unless, of course, you don't like your entertainment to be personal, hand-hewn, gorgeous, unpredictable, reverent, irreverent, hilarious, toyetic as fuck and absolutely batshit bonkers.* In that case, please ignore this post.

    A teensy taste from issue #3...
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    ...and I'll show myself out.


    * Or if you hate the idea of seeing with your own eyes exactly what you would have drawn when you were 8 if you'd only had the skills at the time would look like.
     
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    Everyone’s favourite deadbeat drug addicted dole bludging cat, witch and werewolf are back in Bad Gateway:
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    Waited a long damn time to pick up my physical copy. Despite the authour being an Aussie, we were last on the globe to get it shipped in!
     
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    ^ Whelp, he's 'Merican now, mate! Yeah, we got our copies over here back at the end of July. Is Fangraphics his world wide publisher? Do you all receive the same copies that we do, just delivered by steamship, or is there a different imprint in your neck of it?

    At any rate... Great, right? Beyond the story itself, I was pretty delighted by the presentation itself, what with the expanded size, 9x12" this time, and the damn luxurious black finish all along the edges of the pages. A damn fine volume even before you open it up and hit those gorgeous endpapers.

    Did I read you right, @nefasth, that you didn't care for this one? I'd be most interested to learn when the volume failed you. Me? Couldn't put it down once it was in my hands.
     
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    For all intents and purposes I believe the edition is the exact same: Fantagraphics and expanded with black finish. Definitely one of the greatest purchases I've made in yonks. My only problem is that it has left me longing for more. Just like the last release did. I think next time round may prove to be even more intense because Hanselmann's own mother was allegedly a heroin junkie so I think he might draw experience from that to tell Megg's story.
     
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