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    Fuck this tennis racquet! The result of the ball hitting the net wouldn't be so destructive but I think it was the result of a month-long pile of other 'Fuck You's tipping over at that point in time.. definitely a good way to let off some steam :twisted:

     
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    I bring forth a trio of fuck yous!

    #1: Fuck the toy stock traders who try and bleed people dry like they're investing in pork futures. I had a dude who basically wanted 4 toys I paid a grand for at sticker value for a $100 blank he just got. I'm seeing more and more trade baiting which requires a level of cognitive dissonance I cannot understand. REEEEEEEEEE I LOST A LOTTO I BET ITS GONNA END ON THE AFTERMARKET FUCKING BULLSHIT ANYWAY ANYONE WANT THIS TKOM DEMOGORGON I GOT IN THE MAIL 20 MINUTES AGO FOR $1200 ITS A DEAL THEY NORMALLY GO FOR $1700 AIN'T I SO GENEROUS. I recognize the reality that this new money is pricing everyone out on the aftermarket but if you're gonna tradebait don't be a martyr about it when you're really a Judas

    #2: Fuck toy artists that send rotting unsold inventory for a show. I bust my ass doing these shows not to make money (because I'm not making jack, I'm up a whopping 100 bucks for a few hundred hours of work) but for the love of the hobby and to share my passion with others in the hope that these artists can make a living wage. If you're gonna just send me crap left on your webstore for a year just say you can't contribute. It happened for this show and the last one.

    #3: Although 99.999% of people at Kaiju Cult were cool, fuck you to the one person that wasn't. She bought 3 grand worth of stuff which tells me if you have that kinda money your collection is probably bookended with gold bars. Would it kill you if you didn't get absolutely everything you wanted and only 75%? Come on.
     
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    Not to tell you how to run your show, but as the organiser surely you can stop someone spending 3k if you feel it encourages flipping or doesn't give everyone a fair chance. Sorry for the frustrations; it's been crazy seeing Kaiju Cult come up from afar and I'm sure that's due in no small part to your efforts.
     
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    Well, it was an awkward situation. This person was a very regular customer of my show partner and he vouched for her. I don't think she was flipping (I also told other fans that if they see stuff on the aftermarket in the short term let me know and I will ban their ass), I just think she was being a bit of an entitled baby and candidly speaking, that's not exactly the type of person I'm looking to sell to. I just wanna have a fun cool show with fun cool customers who are appreciative of the show and opportunity to buy cool art locally. Another show runner hit me up yesterday and told me there was almost a fist fight last year over Kumons, so at least I haven't had that bullshit yet :lol:

    I just took this as a learning opportunity to refine the process. Future shows are likely going to have the RSVP list 100% randomized regardless of when you RSVPed. And +1s will be separated behind
     
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    For sure, it'll be iterative and you can only iterate so fast when it's once a year. Looking forward to seeing it change and grow.
     
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    Wow there's a lot to unpack from that post @kid_miracleman ... to be fair, you sound as angry and bitter as I was feeling after the second SVM. You see during the first show, we had some flippers that pulled the wool over our eyes.. during the second show, they tried their shit again but it was only after it happened that we realised the same dickheads pulled some sneaky shit. I guess it comes with the territory of holding these shows recently.

    Hmmm I don't know if throwing fuck yous towards toy artists a week after your show is a good look.. but you do bring up a fair point. However some artists might be too busy to get customs done in time, they may have had personal issues come up, they may be suffering from creative stage-fright.. who knows. But seeing as you brought it up - I have a little story about an artist that I've basically been told not to mention around here by name. So lets just call him MDH.. this guy not only gave us multiples of a blue Zug with blue eyes for SVM2 (which was weird because it apparently sold out prior to that.. speaking of providing unsold inventory) he also had the nerve to accuse me of trying to rip him off while I was sending him payment afterwards. I make a point of breaking down selling price/gallery commission/artist's takeaway more than once with artists before they participate for the very reason of no misunderstandings. Now before some of you accuse me of picking on this guy blah blah blah take a second to think about this before you take his dick out of your mouths - I had clarified payment with this guy prior to him sending toys, we sell them out, and I'm telling him "I'm sending you this much $$$ what's the best paypal?" and he starts to rip me on that's not what we agreed upon. Motherfucker I'm paying you a chunk of money and you pull shit like accusing me of ripping you off.. Man this brings back memories. This incident was the start of the rift between me and this piece of shit. Anyway.. back on track..

    What's the issue here? Surely you limited purchases to prevent a cashed up patron coming in and wiping out the exhibit.. this isn't your first show right? Limiting to say 4 Items/1 Choice Per Artist is a golden rule and prevents someone from swooping in and taking all of the Shirahama pieces for example.
     
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    I don't know why you think I sound angry and bitter. It's a "fuck you" thread. I ain't gonna post "99% of my event was absolutely great! Let's all enjoy sunshine, back rubs and puppies" here ;)

    Honestly I don't think we had any flippers. I just had a bad taste in my mouth when the very first person came with printed RSVP e-mails and a "let me speak to your manager" attitude. Everyone else was super cool.

    I don't expect a bunch of custom packaged one-offs or micro runs or shit like that. This artist sent pieces months ahead of time and was one of the first artists to send stuff, so it wasn't a last minute "Oh crap I don't have the time here's SOMETHING". Keep in mind out of a good 75+ artists or so over the show's lifetime this has happened a whopping 2 times.

    I fully understand with these shows artists simply put don't need us, we need them. But for every hot artist I have that I know will sell out easy like a Chokehazrd or Shirahama I have other artists who I really like their work and just want to give them a chance to expand their audience. In both cases these were smaller artists, and one of them we just ended up having to ship a box full of 6 giant unsold pieces back to Japan, which cuts into our costs. So yeah, really if you're just treating a toy show as a dumping ground for rotting unsold inventory you're just wasting your time and money and mine. Don't bother.

    In the case of the artist you were talking about, be thankful they sent you anything because it's a totally different situation. Their pieces are guaranteed sales and draw more of an audience to your show. I asked the same person and didn't get anything. I would have been happy to get some "unsold" inventory that was only unsold because he didn't try to sell it.

    I did a 4 item/1 per artist limit. The point is I have a wide variety of artists and styles so if you are #2 and someone is #1 the chances they buy out everything you planned to buy is pretty unlikely. It's better to be mildly disappointed and cool about it than whine and I FART A LOT till you get what you want IMO.
     
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    A180° on the whole trio of fuck you's . . . sounds like someone got his back rubbed! :roll:
     
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    I'm currently struggling w/ the lotto thing, but I think I have it handled.
    I hate when adults act like 3 yr olds for pieces of plastic, while i have see super kind, sweet patrons denied art they want.
    It's like can I deny a person a ticket for being an asshole? I wonder & whole hardheadedly wish.
    Throwing a toys show is SUPER difficult. curating, while trying not to be a harbinger of doom, while also trying to shine support on artists. plus all the garlbly goop that goes w/ the gallery. and, in the end we do it for little to no money.
    I had a VERY FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU day yesterday about putting this show together.
    It was all on me though...
    I know that the toys, artists and collectors will make the show wonderful.
    Not trying to sound ableist, But i feel like im going crazy at times.
     
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    None of you seem pragmatic enough to be involved in this shit!

    It's not your product.
    It's not your $$$.
    Plan and promote the event.
    Set up a protocol for selling and stick to it.
    Move the merch.
    Pay the vendors.
    Done deal!

    Surely it's a show to display and SELL other people's shit for their benefit . . . NOT YOUR BENEFIT (unless you have an ulterior motive)!
     
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    It's totally natural to rationalize and question doing something that's so much work.
    It's a leadership situation. still... Fuck ya. we get to help people. so wtvr.
     
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    Speaking from experience, if the show you are running ends with more frustration than joy, you should consider not running it any more.
     
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    I hope that I’m not the asshole you speak of. LOL

    Seriously though, as much as I’d love to score something sweet, I would just like to come and hang with my peeps and expose my son to more toys. I hope to God that I’m not working that day but most likely I will be
     
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    This.

    Set up a protocol for selling and stick to it.

    How hard is that? You aren't splitting atoms. :lol:

    She sounds like that rich asshole lady from the Exit in the Gift Shop who 'have an original Banksy hanging in my panic room where i finger bang myself and an original warhol but its in my closet " (or whatever the FUCK she said before you cine files go checking me. )

    Sounds like it was a Kay Bee toy store new release day on some bad acid.

    :razz:

    :thumbsup:
     
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    Seems like every show has an alpha hypebeast trying to get their way no matter what.. they are bad enough when they turn up solo but when these greedy fucks turn up with 'family members' (college students being paid by the hour to line-up with them) that raises the bullshit to a whole other level.
     
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    No issues with my previous show. And this person came from Florida so ya know ;) Hopefully year 4 won't end with "Florida woman stabs 3 in order to "get that sweet ass painted 1-off"

    A few people that came last year muled for people here I also know. Luckily those are also people who have been cool to me previously with reasonable sales for stuff I want, so I'm glad all this toy karma comes full circle. It's genuinely why I wanted to do this show in the first place

    Damn it, now here I am turning the "fuck you" thread into a love fest

    EVERYONE HERE SUCKS AND EATS EACH OTHER'S FARTS

    Back to normal business
     
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    So you're doing these shows just to build your street cred so you can get good deals on hyped toys that you personally want? ...what happened to helping artists gain more exposure etc etc etc

    *just trying to fan the Fuck You thread flames a bit... maybe, maybe not
     
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    Do you always jump to the worst conclusions? It's gotta suck being so incredibility pessimistic about everything.
     
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    Well it is kind of what you said.. but you've been backflipping all day long so I'm guessing it was just posted in haste. No biggie - just playing up the bad guy role that I've cultivated for myself around here ;)
     
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    No, it isn't what I said. Your pessimistic perspective is what you are interpreting that as.

    What I'm saying is "I'm happy that I was able to sell cool toys to good people that were also trying to hook up other good people I know. I know they are good people because they have tried to hook me up when they could have just as easily been selling stuff I wanted for ridiculous markups but they were charging what they paid. In addition, I was able to provide a modest income to cool artists whose work I appreciate and many of them were happy to hear how well they did. I paid most of them within 24 hours of the show finishing because I wanted to show my respect and appreciation for their contributions, which is unheard of as multiple artists have told me they're still waiting on checks from galleries for shit sold 6+ months ago"

    I anxiously await the unique reply you'll make to piss all over that
     
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    I bought a lot last Kaijucult show, mainly because it was the only show I could attend last year. Have kept all of it besides the one toy I muled for a hardcore Secretoy collector. Bought 3 at a time and waited for the line to go through each time before asking for more. Didn’t have my girlfriend line up/attempt to buy as well even though she made the 6 hour drive with me - because she isn’t a collector.

    It’s really not that hard to have good show etiquette and to try to treat others fairly. And relax and meet other collectors and have a good time. Because these things are fun, right?
     
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    Its a shame anyone has to justify or further explain their fuck you's but when it concerns 'cool' toys, I'm not surprised I suppose. Its also a shame that money and bragging rights is ruining a fun hobby, but maybe its not too far gone just yet.

    Remember, they're just plastic dollies people! And thats coming from a person who collects little girls toys and baby squeakers, so i should know. People aren't getting all bent out of shape and arguing (or greedily trying to flip) Kewpie dolls or whatever, so that's why I've started focusing more on that stuff.

    The frustrations that come with collecting 'cool' toys are a pain in the arse, frankly. That, and I can't fucking afford a lot of it anymore!
     
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    Fuck you, you furry fuck
     
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    bruh you need one of these. Then you strawberries will be safe.
     
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    A beautiful brillo child! :shock:

    I have one of those! She scared it away with barking but she really wanted to murder it

     

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