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  1. Rich

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    You can use CS lure paints, it’s made to bond to vinyl.
    It’s just VERY thick. I got the white paint to thin down to proper levels. But didn’t need to with the rest. Thy alone though means with enough trial and error it’s possible to make it proper.

    Everyone state side uses their thinner and clear though. You can order direct by the gallon and save money.
     
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    I don't paint so I have no clue but I always thought one of the main points of using a real vinyl paint on toys is that you don't need to clear coat stuff after painting. When you clear coat what is it for exactly? Just like spot gloss stuff or do you coat entire figures for protection? Do they need any protection?
     
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    Technically no you don’t have to clear. However different paint and different thinning can result in different levels of paint gloss. So a proper balanced clear can act as a polish that’s pretty much unnoticeable. It will balance out all imperfections in gloss levels and give just a small protective barrier.
     
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    Very interesting. So you coat most of your work after painting?
     
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    Here's one that's on my mind after moving: how harmful is indirect sunlight? My collection is definitely more exposed to light than before, but I keep the blinds down and none of the windows in rooms where I have toys are ever in the path of the sun. Should I be freaking out and moving everything to a dark corner?
     
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    Really depends and why my process takes so long. I literally will do my best to go over each and everything I paint one by one looking it over for flaws and consistency. I have a gloss blend I like to use to to give it a “polish” it’s very very subtle. I’m trying to mimic blank vinyl. So the clear really needs to be so thin that you can’t tell it exists.

    So for the most part if I’m painting a run, the odds are yes they have a layer of gloss, for balance and a slight layer of added protection.
     
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    I think about this also. I know you can buy clear UV sheets to lay over the glass. Something I’ve been looking at.
     
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    Direct sunlight does damage for sure. It is way more evident on some vinyl colors than it is on others though. Like clear for example.

    I don't worry much about indirect sunlight but as a precaution I ended up buying blackout curtains to go over my normal curtains. The blackout ones block 99.9% of UV rays and I figured why leave a room full of sunlight when I'm not home or when I'm asleep? I was able to fully blackout two rooms with lots of windows for about $100 bucks. The install took a couple of hours(would take just minutes if you put them on existing curtain robs)and opening and closing them now takes seconds. Plus I like that it isn't possible for randoms to look through my windows when I'm gone.
     
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    Thanks @Waterbear! I'm getting a better blackout shade in my office and will try out the UV film for other rooms.
     
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    Regarding the sticky toys: My experiments have concluded and I basically wrote an essay, which you can find here: http://www.skullbrain.org/bb/index....eriment-–-or-–-how-to-fix-a-sticky-toy.54503/ - It was long enough that it needed to be it's own post but feel free to discuss here as well. Whatever works. In summary, to fix a sticky toy, I had success with brushing on Liquitex matte varnish or airbrushing on Mad Ape clear coat. Check out my post for the full write-up!

    Also, thank you to @Waterbear and @Rich for sharing info on CS Coatings. I'll definitely experiment with their paints at some point.
     
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