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pennjones
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 V color questions
I'm about to order some v color over at kt, and I was wondering what the difference is between the more expensive colors (700 yen per) versus the cheaper colors (350 yen per). I know that the more expensive one probably comes with more paint, but how much are we talking for each of these canisters? Is it like 2oz versus 4oz, or is it more or less? Also, if I buy a 2 of the 1050 yen thinners, will this be enough to last a while. I've only ever used createx airbrush paints so I'm lost with these. Any help or points in the right direction are much appreciated!
-Brad
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:13 pm |
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hillsy11
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I thought the Y350 cans are for airbrushes and the Y700 are cans of spray paint?
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:25 pm |
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pennjones
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Is that what's up? I can't tell because I don't read Japanese (I've always wanted to learn) and I can't tell what the cans say.
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:31 pm |
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MANIMAL
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yeah larger cans are spray - smaller are airbrush pods of paint
i suggest getting one blk and one wht - spraypaint - easy to "prime" a toy all over with a light/dark base depending whatcolors will be on the toy
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:17 pm |
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pennjones
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Thanks guys! Any advice on the thinner? Two cans too little?
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:24 pm |
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pickleloaf
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pennjones wrote: Thanks guys! Any advice on the thinner? Two cans too little?
you don't need to put a base coat down with vcolor - it coats very well
and 2 cans should last you awhile unless you are painting like every day. i'm still on my first can of 2 and i have painted 5 or so figures
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:33 pm |
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pennjones
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Great news on all fronts! I'll be placing an order within the next 24 hours!!
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:39 pm |
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Rich
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MANIMAL wrote: yeah larger cans are spray - smaller are airbrush pods of paint
i suggest getting one blk and one wht - spraypaint - easy to "prime" a toy all over with a light/dark base depending whatcolors will be on the toy
Dissagree
Like has been said a million times before, no need for priming with V-color. Not to mention the spray cans are kinda odd. The paint sprays different consistency . If you really want to get good results do it right and get and mix your own paint. Its a little more work in the beginning , but will pay off in the end.
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:42 pm |
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Robert DeCastro
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Just ordered 27 diff colors of V-Color and a bigass can of thinner at KT.
Can't wait to see what comes out. My first vinyl custom
I think the RxH flesh set #1 is lookin mighty worried. 
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:56 pm |
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Rich
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Robert DeCastro wrote: Just ordered 27 diff colors of V-Color and a bigass can of thinner at KT. Can't wait to see what comes out. My first vinyl custom I think the RxH flesh set #1 is lookin mighty worried. 
27 colors !!!
I hoped you ordered more than one of those big ass cans.... more like 4-5 of those big ass cans !
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:22 pm |
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pickleloaf
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Robert DeCastro wrote: Just ordered 27 diff colors of V-Color and a bigass can of thinner at KT. Can't wait to see what comes out. My first vinyl custom I think the RxH flesh set #1 is lookin mighty worried. 
those seem to be good to start on. i ruined a couple myself and i dont even like rxh all that much
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| Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:29 pm |
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pennjones
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If anyone wants to get rid of any cheap rxh for me to play with (prefer evils and heads), I'd be happy to take them off your hands!
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motorbot
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pennjones wrote: If anyone wants to get rid of any cheap rxh for me to play with (prefer evils and heads), I'd be happy to take them off your hands!
there was someone unloading some cheap flesh figures last week on the bay. i know i saw a head for like $30 or $40 and maybe a $20 popsoda. sadly i had just bought some other stuff and was strapped.
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Robert DeCastro
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LASH wrote: Robert DeCastro wrote: Just ordered 27 diff colors of V-Color and a bigass can of thinner at KT. Can't wait to see what comes out. My first vinyl custom I think the RxH flesh set #1 is lookin mighty worried.  27 colors !!! I hoped you ordered more than one of those big ass cans.... more like 4-5 of those big ass cans !
Well I'm not going to use it all at once. I just like to have a full palette in hand. I'm one o those "it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it type of guy. 400cc of thinner is more than enough for the job. Since this is my first time buying V-color I thought I'd feel things out.
I did a similar thing when I got into Warhammer 40K models. After the first job i'll see what colors I gravitate to and order multiple bottles of that.
Just to clarify. I'm new to painting vinyl (kaiju) but I've been painting vinyl models as well as styrene, resin and puter models all my life. I've even scratch built a 1/6th scale ww 2 tanks at one time. This is just something I want to experience. It's something new to conquer 
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rhinomilk
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remember! use proper ventilation and a heavy duty respirator (not a dinky dust mask) when using v-color. or you will DIE
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hillsy11
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Shit....I'm just gonna take the spray paint and toy out to the porch!
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Shirahama
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MORE THINNER. You will go through it like water.
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MANIMAL
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LASH wrote: MANIMAL wrote: yeah larger cans are spray - smaller are airbrush pods of paint
i suggest getting one blk and one wht - spraypaint - easy to "prime" a toy all over with a light/dark base depending whatcolors will be on the toy Dissagree Like has been said a million times before, no need for priming with V-color. Not to mention the spray cans are kinda odd. The paint sprays different consistency . If you really want to get good results do it right and get and mix your own paint. Its a little more work in the beginning , but will pay off in the end.
there is no need to prime flesh figures
but i dont really see it as "priming" its just that ifyou get a solid black toy - and want to do it in a bunch of light, bright colors - i hvae found that id you coat it all in 2 layers of white ( fro the spraypaint cans) that all your colors will be of a brighter hue than a darker
u dont NEED to "prime" toys- i just find a white - or black base coat as a starter color helps your over all look
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MANIMAL wrote: LASH wrote: MANIMAL wrote: yeah larger cans are spray - smaller are airbrush pods of paint
i suggest getting one blk and one wht - spraypaint - easy to "prime" a toy all over with a light/dark base depending whatcolors will be on the toy Dissagree Like has been said a million times before, no need for priming with V-color. Not to mention the spray cans are kinda odd. The paint sprays different consistency . If you really want to get good results do it right and get and mix your own paint. Its a little more work in the beginning , but will pay off in the end. there is no need to prime flesh figures but i dont really see it as "priming" its just that ifyou get a solid black toy - and want to do it in a bunch of light, bright colors - i hvae found that id you coat it all in 2 layers of white ( fro the spraypaint cans) that all your colors will be of a brighter hue than a darker u dont NEED to "prime" toys- i just find a white - or black base coat as a starter color helps your over all look
Priming JP vinyl is sacrelig, please dont paint anymore.
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MANIMAL
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hahaha- when i say "prime" im not talking like auto primer - im speaking of laying down a white base coat before painting with light colors or laying down a black base coat before painting with dark colors
its a standard painting technique wether yer doing interior walls, toys, or anything
unless you want th ebase vinyl color to show through as a part of your final outcome - then no need for a solid base coat of color
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pickleloaf
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the base colors of the vinyl won't show through the v-color though. if you are going to put down a thick enough coat of white or black to cover the vinyl color, why not just put down enough of whatever other color to do it?
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MANIMAL
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not sure why this is hard to understand - i know we all have our ways of painting these and my customs are the most hated and awful ...but
I recently i tried painting a solid green orghan bat - the vinyl was green
i sprayed hot pink and yellow over it, and due to the green vinyl, it came out dank and not vibrant
seeing as how i did not want the green vinyl showing anywhere on the piece when finished - i sprayed the entire toy with some white vcolor - re-applied the lite colors i wanted and it came out as vibrant as expected
i have since stripped the figure and am starting a new color scheme - wish i took "before" and "after" pics
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Robert DeCastro
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pickleloaf wrote: the base colors of the vinyl won't show through the v-color though. if you are going to put down a thick enough coat of white or black to cover the vinyl color, why not just put down enough of whatever other color to do it?
It's an old school painting technique. You use less paint and the colors become more vibrant. I think what Manimal is reffering to in regards to the vinyl showing is when you do paint schemes where you dont paint parts of the toy.
You can cut down on the ridge effect when you mask by doing this. I think you where having problems with that right?
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pickleloaf
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Robert DeCastro wrote: pickleloaf wrote: the base colors of the vinyl won't show through the v-color though. if you are going to put down a thick enough coat of white or black to cover the vinyl color, why not just put down enough of whatever other color to do it? It's an old school painting technique. You use less paint and the colors become more vibrant. I think what Manimal is reffering to in regards to the vinyl showing is when you do paint schemes where you dont paint parts of the toy. You can cut down on the ridge effect when you mask by doing this. I think you where having problems with that right?
yeah - toybot helped me with that. i turned down the air pressure on the brush for the mask edges. i was piling up too much paint
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MANIMAL
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yes robert u are correct! and that is what im talking about - maybe i just didnt word it correctly or maybe its because i m hated here and how could I ever possibly have any good paintings tips - either way thanks for describing it in a different way - cant wait to se what you piant when you get all your VCOLOR!!!
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