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Actually, I just read he does appear to be a Marine.

This is definitely a disgusting video -- but if _this_ is what pisses you off, when something like a few million Iraqis (incl. a huge number of children) have died as a direct result of our involvement in that country over the last decade, well, all I can say is you should have gotten pissed off a long, long time ago, and a puppy getting thrown off a cliff, as sick as it is, shouldn't have been the straw to break the camel's back.


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I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that nobody thinks that this is "the straw that broke the camel's back."

It's just a new disturbing video that has just been released and people are voicing their opinions.

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I almost watched, I have a 4 months old boston and the face reminded me of his so I the second i saw the dog I truned it off, I couldnt bare to see what was gonna happen.

The fucker should be beaten to has face is mush.


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Death before dishonour under this Administration apparently means hurling bound puppies off a cliff.

The Chimp running the whole show into the ground would probably give this Marine a medal if there was any way to spin this crap.

If Patton were alive today he'd probably fly to Hawaii and shoot this dipshit in the face personally. Except Patton would have been fired for being competent prior to invading Iraq.

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Nicky G wrote:
This is definitely a disgusting video -- but if _this_ is what pisses you off, when something like a few million Iraqis (incl. a huge number of children) have died as a direct result of our involvement in that country over the last decade, well, all I can say is you should have gotten pissed off a long, long time ago, and a puppy getting thrown off a cliff, as sick as it is, shouldn't have been the straw to break the camel's back.
+1.

I can also see where the video could have been faked.


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This guy is holding a gun and protecting the country? Fuck this. They should start up a charity for beating the shit out of this bastard.

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It could be fake. But what kind of idiots are they dressing up as Marines these days? Fake or not those guys are likely toast. If not in the military then outside.

They've disgraced the corps. This is a puppy appearing to be killed on film by Marines in uniform. Its easier to kill women and children (if they're not American citizens) as a US soldier and get away with it. Americans like dogs, and puppies being killed on film look out...

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So would a child be tied up and thrown off a cliff not get this sort of reaction ?


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So would a child be tied up and thrown off a cliff not get this sort of reaction ?


If they filmed it probably.

You know we did drop cluster bombs on kids in Iraq though. Haditha involved some children too.

It takes a puppy to make the average American stop eating his or her Big Mac long enough to notice

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So would a child be tied up and thrown off a cliff not get this sort of reaction ?


If they filmed it probably.

You know we did drop cluster bombs on kids in Iraq though. Haditha involved some children too.

It takes a puppy to make the average American stop eating his or her Big Mac long enough to notice


That and turn off the sports game !


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I saw this video and I feel like im scarred for life. I seriously shed a tear. What a bastard this guy is.

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It could be fake. But what kind of idiots are they dressing up as Marines these days? Fake or not those guys are likely toast. If not in the military then outside.
The part I think that could be faked is the puppy itself. It doesn't move, it could be dead already. Or a doll. The yelping sound could have been supplied by one of the people there or dubbed in later.

And I guess every other aspect of it could be faked, too. We have no idea whether the setting is Iraq or Afghanistan or somewhere outside of LA. The whole video only lasts 16 seconds, and is grainy as all hell.

And, after all, the internet is pretty fertile ground for hoaxes that play on peoples' sympathies:

http://www.puppyprofits.com/


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humanity is the devil.
fuck this guy.


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it never seems to bottom out, disgusting.

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FYI he apparently works for Blackwater, and is not on active duty as a soldier. Blackwater/mercenaries in general = eff'd up majorly




ever wonder why that name was chosen?

it seems to fit their criteria and requisite.



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disposal water from toilet system, held in holding tank until you dump it, in large tanks or dumping station available at most campgrounds.

Water contaminated with human waste, collected from shipboard toilets.

Under various national and international standards, black water must be treated before being discharged from a vessel.

edit. guess that does not apply to it manifested in human form.

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It's all about conduct. The reason this video of a puppy is having so much affect on us is because it shows so-called 'peacekeepers' behaving like jackasses which absolutely tarnishes the image of the government and makes u think 'I live in a country governed by these people'?

I remain open minded that it MAY be fake but it really doesn't help because the people in the video obviously have too much free time on their hands and decided 'Let's fuck up the nation even more'.

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obviously this is fucked up, but dogs being shot in iraq by troops is apparently pretty common.

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obviously this is fucked up, but dogs being shot in iraq by troops is apparently pretty common.

I don't think you saw the video..right???

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It's all about conduct. The reason this video of a puppy is having so much affect on us is because it shows so-called 'peacekeepers' behaving like jackasses which absolutely tarnishes the image of the government and makes u think 'I live in a country governed by these people'?
Last I checked, these two guys or anyone else in the military did not govern the United States.

And sure, they're held to a higher code of conduct, but at the end of the day they accomplish what they're ordered to do by shooting people and blowing things up. Once some people cross that line they have a hard time coming back.

If the video is real, and it is a real live puppy being thrown into a ditch by a soldier serving in the Middle East, then I'm still not shocked. Upset yes, but not shocked, because after hearing and reading stories by soldiers that go back nearly 100 years, something like this wouldn't surprise me.


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...the people in the video obviously have too much free time on their hands...
Let me just provide a gentle reality check and remind you that you have made nearly 400 posts on a BBS about Japanese monster toys.

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The puppy is limp because well its a puppy and its trusting and its being held on the scruff of its neck so it thinks its with its mother or someone it can trust.

The video is odd though.

Their problem is they are really Marines. He is allegedly David Motari stationed in Hawaii.

I have his address in Washington state and his old phone number as well as do probably 150,000+ other pissed off people.

Its been reported that his mothers had to change her phone number. The guy's myspace friends are bumming out too each and every one of them supposedly.

Conduct unbecoming a Marine fits fake or not and this guy isn't going to be a happy camper even if they don't charge him.

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Why would anyone harass his family? I doubt if his mom raised him to kill puppies.


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Last I checked, these two guys or anyone else in the military did not govern the United States.


So if an employee fucks up, the employer shouldn't be responsible? Lower level behaviour can affect the image of the ones at the top. Military personnel represent the country, they fight on behalf of their people and directed by who else? The government.

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obviously this is fucked up, but dogs being shot in iraq by troops is apparently pretty common.

I don't think you saw the video..right???


yeah, i saw it.

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...the people in the video obviously have too much free time on their hands...
Let me just provide a gentle reality check and remind you that you have made nearly 400 posts on a BBS about Japanese monster toys.

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Yes and I should start shooting a video about abusing animals to make my time pass that much faster right? ;p

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Why would anyone harass his family? I doubt if his mom raised him to kill puppies.


I was raised to kill kittens and miniature horses for the most part but some people might be raised to kill dogs maybe no?

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